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  1. #421
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post
    I'm not saying there aren't QoL mods. I'm saying ACT is not accessibility. There are a lot of mods that aren't about accessibility. A lot of them are for convenience. But I know you like to spin stuff from seeing how you speak with others. You don't look for discussion. You look to "win".



    I get where you're coming from, but I have to reiterate that I have never said ACT was or wasn't cheating. I was simply addressing previously that there are in game features that do the same thing so ACT is not required to be a better player, and that ACT is about convenience rather than accessibility as all it does is take information from the game. Take with that what you will. I'm not here to discuss whether ACT is cheating or not. So while I appreciate you sharing your opinion, don't
    Ah, I see you missed my point (tbf it wasn't worded great and wasn't specifically aimed at you) and chose to hit me with a claim that far better fits the hyperzealous anti-mod crowd that's been in this thread. Not sure what I've spun or how I don't seek discussion, but whatever lol

    Anyways, my point is aimed at the whole "modding is cheating" discourse that's been going on, and basically, like another person said, adding options that make up for for the poorly designed/not designed in game options both isn't cheating and still adds accessibility to the game. Convenience, in my eyes, IS accessibility, I think the two go hand in hand.
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    Last edited by Zebraoracle; 02-19-2023 at 04:58 AM.

  2. #422
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I already admitted that it was a mistake to be baited by a personal attack. But proper social skills that anyone learns as an adult is it's not appropriate to personally attack someone during a discourse because you disagree with them on an another topic. In other gaming forums that are actually moderated, that person would have been moderated and penalized for doing so. (Such as Elder Scrolls Online forums that have a zero-tolerance for that, unlike the cesspit here).

    Look how the person calling me a republican (something that isn't relevant that they pulled out of their butt) is being upvoted here. Says a lot of the mentality of some portion of the people here. (A lot actually, given how often personal attacks are supported here.)
    Thing is who cares, say if everything you say is true you have zero to prove, so shrug it off. Not trying to come off as harsh or anything but a lot of the issue on these forums stem from people taking words from strangers on a personal level. Just smile and move on with your life, it seems you are doing very well for yourself so who cares if someone thinks you are a republican or a crappy boss? You know what is true and not, so live and let live man. Be the bigger person.

    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    What's funny is I don't think people realize just how much sway FFlogs has nowadays. People praised the dev team up and down for supposedly breaking up the Stormblood Trio of Dragoon, Ninja and Bard yet it's actually the implementation of rDPS (and later aDPS) as the ranked category on FFlogs that played a much bigger role. Without that change selfish jobs would continue to be completely ignored and frequently locked out of parties. Any hopes of optimization on say, Samurai or White Mage would be gone within an instance because nobody of comparable skill level would want either in their parties as you'd be sacrificing both buffs and kill time. Likewise, what keeps the double healers alive is FFlogs mandating a 2/2/4 comp to rank under Standard. If they ever allowed you to run 2/1/5 every single high end static, including a good number of midcore groups would be asking one of their healers which DPS they want to swap to after prog. P8S and Ultimate would be the only exceptions.



    Much like a genuinely good player doesn't announce how good they are, they simply play well and other people notice. A successful and confident person in real life doesn't brag or flex their wealth. They simply go about their business as anyone else would.
    Indeed just do what you enjoy and call it a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

  3. #423
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Thing is who cares, say if everything you say is true you have zero to prove, so shrug it off. Not trying to come off as harsh or anything but a lot of the issue on these forums stem from people taking words from strangers on a personal level. Just smile and move on with your life, it seems you are doing very well for yourself so who cares if someone thinks you are a republican or a crappy boss? You know what is true and not, so live and let live man. Be the bigger person.
    I agree. In the future anyone who cannot have a mature conversation and has to result to random personal insults I will block, even if it means I'm left with 5 people across this entire forum whose messages I can still read.

    Quote Originally Posted by DragonFlyy View Post
    You definitely sound like the owner of a business. Only care about myself, to hell with everyone else including my employees. Are you republican too?
    Starting now. Into the block bin you go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I agree. In the future anyone who cannot have a mature conversation and has to result to random personal insults I will block, even if it means I'm left with 5 people across this entire forum whose messages I can still read.



    Starting now. Into the block bin you go.
    I mean you don't have to tell the forums you are blocking people, but I hope this enhances your user experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    I mean you don't have to tell the forums you are blocking people, but I hope this enhances your user experience.
    Just being polite, so they don't expect a response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonFlyy View Post
    You definitely sound like the owner of a business. Only care about myself, to hell with everyone else including my employees. Are you republican too?
    Thanks for making my night. Americans use "Republican" as a derogatory remark? On a game forum thread with not a lick of political talk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Except p8s was never overtuned, it was job balance that was atrocious. It's just that nerfing boss HP by a few % is much faster and easier than rebalancing the tank role, the caster role and the physical ranged role. The multitude of bugs in TOP are inexcusable though.
    I wonder how people knew that job balance was atrocious... hmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    I also dislike mods that tell you callous and stuff but they do not play the game for you. You still need to be able to actually respond to the mechanics yourself.

    I agree they are pretty cheaty but tbh I don't really care as long as people aren't dumb about it.

    I don't even like Deadly Boss Mods in WoW, I hated that we had to have it because fights were designed with it in mind. I personally want to be able to do the mechanics myself. I also realize that there are some people who flat out would not be able to play certain parts of the game without Cactbot or DBM, but I'm not going to sit here and gatekeep a frigging MMO. At the end of the day, is it really worth it? What do I gain from it if, again, they are keeping it to themselves and I get all riles up over it?
    Playing the game for you was more in reference to the literal bots underground gathering. So obviously something exists for that
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    Last edited by Kolaina; 02-19-2023 at 06:15 AM.

  9. #429
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Starting now. Into the block bin you go.
    Block bin? Sounds almost like you think of them as trash. With the way you galavant your black list and like to tell everyone when you have someone blocked, you seem to have a worse demeanor than the people you put in the "bin". Not just that, but you bring up the people you have blocked's name to other people to let those people know you have that person blocked, as if they live rent free in your head. Act mature. Real mature, not the facade you put on.

    You can block people without having to say anything. Telling people makes you come off as arrogant. Though, if I recall correctly, you did tell me before that you believe you are of superior intellect to most of the forums.

    But I guess me saying that means I'll go in the bin next, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post
    Block bin? Sounds almost like you think of them as trash. With the way you galavant your black list and like to tell everyone when you have someone blocked, you seem to have a worse demeanor than the people you put in the "bin". Not just that, but you bring up the people you have blocked's name to other people to let those people know you have that person blocked, as if they live rent free in your head. Act mature. Real mature, not the facade you put on.

    You can block people without having to say anything. Telling people makes you come off as arrogant. Though, if I recall correctly, you did tell me before that you believe you are of superior intellect to most of the forums.

    But I guess me saying that means I'll go in the bin next, huh?
    This is just poking the bear at this point, granted I do the same but by most standards what we are doing by poking the bear is also not very mature either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

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