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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Halicarnassus
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Since the third party program isnt allowed...yes. If it took data from the game as it is, no..but as it requires the use of a third party program that is not allowed under TOS, and since I wont ever agree to use that program, no logs.

    Seems simple to me.

    But again, you already know this..so why ask?
    Yeah you are something else, there is literally no way to improve without third party tools, I dont even do the content myself and I know that, you can improve your rotation sure by looking at icyveins or other sources (which by the way were used using third party tools to practice the best rotations). FFLogs is not cheating, neither is improving, the source where it comes from ? So be it that it's used for other things, but to literally call improving at the game cheating is absolutely ridiculous, and by calling fflogs cheating, you are calling improving at the game cheating.
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    Last edited by Stormpeaks; 02-18-2023 at 05:53 PM.

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    Player Kazhar's Avatar
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    Kazek Amilia
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    Twintania
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Yeah you are something else, there is literally no way to improve without third party tools, I dont even do the content myself and I know that
    I gotta have to disagree with that, or at least add some nuance.
    You can't improve without data. Improving by itself has nothing to do with fflogs. The thing is the best way to acquire that data by far is through the use of third party tools because the game by itself is extremely bad at giving you any competent evaluation of your performance (to prevent toxicity). FFlogs doesn't give you any information that's inaccessible so you technically don't ever need it. It's just more digest than all the alternatives.
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