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    Player Kazhar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Tell ya what Kazhar: I hope that they DO make it official. I hope they DO have a world first race with supervised computers and no addons allowed.

    Then we will see who really is the best at the game.
    I think you might ironically care more about who's the best at the game than I do.
    I mean sure, an officially sponsorised World First might be a good idea, but you might be disappointed at the results. I'm pretty sure the winners would be generally the same people who've claimed WF in multiple savage and ultimate content since Stormblood.

    Zoom hacks are pretty egregious but not to the point that it could give you a two day lead in such an intense competition. Give all possible plugins to your average TOP raider you see in PF and they probably still won't be able to clear P2 consistently after a week.
    The RDM in his DSR World First didn't even bother cleaning any of his add-ons and the worst we've seen is a single automated callout for a mechanic that's so easy (Nidhogg cleaves after Wroth Flames, which only requires you to read the name of the attack in enmity list) I don't even know why it was there in the first place.
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    Last edited by Kazhar; 02-18-2023 at 04:40 PM.

  2. #342
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Threads like this for example?

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ds-to-increase.

    So, to put this as politely as I can, dont tell ME to "git gud" when in THIS THREAD it has been admitted that a LARGE percentage of players in "harder content" cant beat savage or ex or ultimate without a boatload of addons.

    The utter hypocrisy is ...to be frank, sickening.
    Have they proven it, or have they simply stated it makes it convenient? Also, define "boatload". What sort of add-ons are you considering are required for people to clear? ACT, perhaps, that's the obvious one, which in turn leads to Cactbot. Some people rely on Alexander to reduce ping-related problems. Maybe shaders to help discern markers?

    Though I doubt anything those do (with MAYBE the exception of Cactbot) implies they couldn't clear that content otherwise.
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  3. #343
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    VelKallor's Avatar
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    Vel Kallor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Just more dodging instead of putting up proof. As expected. Dont worry though, your RP addons are safe. (I bet that is why you dont want anti cheat in this game )
    I dont have any addons. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. I also dont RP.

    You also didnt read what I said..I said you dont want anticheats in FF 14. You dont. You have no idea what can of worms would be opened with those systems. But as you will.
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    Isn't ant cheat software a no no in Japan? I thought I read that somewhere but could be mistaken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    I dont have any addons. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. I also dont RP.

    You also didnt read what I said..I said you dont want anticheats in FF 14. You dont. You have no idea what can of worms would be opened with those systems. But as you will.
    Most casuals do use addons so with your logic of sweeping accusations with no basis it's perfectly okay to assume you are aswell. Casuals using addons are in no place to tell others what they can and cant use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    (I bet that is why you dont want anti cheat in this game )
    Here's a can of worms I hope nobody opens. Even kernel-level anti-cheat is not gonna work. You think square has the ability to maintain an anticheat properly considering their current track record with responding to other feedback and technical difficulties? I will uninstall the game in a heartbeat if something akin to Riot Vanguard touches FFXIV, feels more like an attack vector than a game feature.
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    Also I'm pretty sure square can detect most of not all mods already, mods from what I have seen alter files changeing sizes and altering files. You know to remove a mod you run the patcher right? Where hacks like rotation/ bots etc are injects.

    I think they know more than is given credit for.

    I wouldn't poke the bear
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    Last edited by Hoodcat; 02-18-2023 at 04:47 PM.

  8. #348
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    Most casuals do use addons so with your logic of sweeping accusations with no basis it's perfectly okay to assume you are aswell. Casuals using addons are in no place to tell others what they can and cant use
    I already said it..I dont need or want or use any kind of addons. None. Zero. Nothing. I have no need for them, the Vanilla UI as it is works fine. You can assume whatever you like, I dont care, I also said ( see above ) that IF I joined a static or other group for savage or ex or whatever, if they said I need to get whatever addon , I would refuse outright.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    I already said it..I dont need or want or use any kind of addons. None. Zero. Nothing. I have no need for them, the Vanilla UI as it is works fine. You can assume whatever you like, I dont care, I also said ( see above ) that IF I joined a static or other group for savage or ex or whatever, if they said I need to get whatever addon , I would refuse outright.
    So you would refuse to improve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoodcat View Post
    Also I'm pretty sure square can detect most of not all mods already, mods from what I have seen alter files changeing sizes and altering files. You know to remove a mod you run the patcher right? Where hacks like rotation/ bots etc are injects.

    I think they know more than is given credit for.

    I wouldn't poke the bear
    It's the same as with bots, the currently available addons would be insanely easy to detect. That would not stay this way if they really did check. Assuming of course the game wouldnt just break on its own under the weight of anti cheat added. The assumption that SE would even be able to make one that doesnt make the game hilariously unfunctional isnt one based on facts.
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