Need advice: static imploding because of cheater.

[Jojoya]

But if SQEX won't put anticheat in the game and task the community to report, which in turn gets called bootlickers/hall monitors for doing just that, what's one to do?

The community has been asked to report if they have reasonable suspicion.

Otherwise, the thing for the community to do is to abide by the ToS themselves. We can't be responsible for what other players choose to do but we can be responsible for what we do ourselves. We may not agree with all rules, but we should nevertheless follow them until such time as we can convince those who do make the rules to change things.

If someone wants to resort to that sort of name calling, it tells us that they have no interest in being accountable for the choices they make and would prefer to deflect attention away from themselves by blaming others.

I think a big problem is that it is really only in multiplayer games that cheating becomes a problem. With a single player game, no one else is affected.

If someone has played nothing but single player games for years, using mods and cheats as they want without repercussions, they're going to have a hard time adjusting to multiplayer games where suddenly it can matter.

[Kazhar]

Still, waiting to hear why it is that people who tell others they are better at the game need cheats to win. If you cant beat the hardest content on your own merits...then that a skill issue.

Isnt it?

If you want a genuine answer to that question, you'd first have to show when and where any of the people who were caught cheating actually told others they are better at the game. Because I still don't know who we're talking about.

Is this about the raiding community at large? Because as far as I know, Cactbot users are the butt of all jokes there too. We just have fewer very passionate individuals who think accessibility plugins, minor UI enhancements and dps meters are an actual crime.

[hynaku]

If I was on a team where leader didn't do anything about a cheater, I would leave it and find a better team that doesn't need to cheat to win. I dealt with cheaters for years on Aion when played it. I don't need to remember those bad days that had to deal with them.

[Stormpeaks]

If I was on a team where leader didn't do anything about a cheater, I would leave it and find a better team that doesn't need to cheat to win. I dealt with cheaters for years on Aion when played it. I don't need to remember those bad days that had to deal with them.

And news flash, a few people that you do PF with or in your static probably use third party tools and you have no idea. "I dont do it" with source : "trust me bro", doesnt mean anything, why ? Because there is no way for you or even SE to know who is using them, except if they scream it on all roofs.

[VelKallor]

Threads like this for example?

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ds-to-increase.

So, to put this as politely as I can, dont tell ME to "git gud" when in THIS THREAD it has been admitted that a LARGE percentage of players in "harder content" cant beat savage or ex or ultimate without a boatload of addons.

The utter hypocrisy is ...to be frank, sickening.

[Saraide]

Threads like this for example?

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ds-to-increase.

So, to put this as politely as I can, dont tell ME to "git gud" when in THIS THREAD it has been admitted that a LARGE percentage of players in "harder content" cant beat savage or ex or ultimate without a boatload of addons.

The utter hypocrisy is ...to be frank, sickening.

You continuing to lie is sickening yet here we are.

[Kazhar]

Threads like this for example?

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ds-to-increase.

So, to put this as politely as I can, dont tell ME to "git gud" when in THIS THREAD it has been admitted that a LARGE percentage of players in "harder content" cant beat savage or ex or ultimate without a boatload of addons.

The utter hypocrisy is ...to be frank, sickening.

Did DixieBellOCE admit to cheating in high-end content?
Not wanting to publicly hang all cheaters like some people do is not an admission of cheating, nor does it means that cheating is supported.

[VelKallor]

Did DixieBellOCE admit to cheating in high-end content? Not wanting to hang all cheaters like some people do is not an admission of cheating.

Tell ya what Kazhar: I hope that they DO make it official. I hope they DO have a world first race with supervised computers and no addons allowed.

Then we will see who really is the best at the game.

Did DixieBellOCE admit to cheating in high-end content?

Never said she did. Never said that at all. What I did and will continue to say is that no one who does high end content with addons is in any position to tell anyone else to "be better at the game". Thats my point.

[kaynide]

And news flash, a few people that you do PF with or in your static probably use third party tools and you have no idea. "I dont do it" with source : "trust me bro", doesnt mean anything, why ? Because there is no way for you or even SE to know who is using them, except if they scream it on all roofs.

Apples and oranges.

The cheater outed themselves via a stream. It is irrelevant if 1 or a million people view it. Once the player has broadcast themselves cheating, and OP became aware of it, they had to decide to become complicit or to remove and report a cheater.

This is less comparable to randos in PF who may or may not cheat and more like the idiot putting themselves on social media licking hamburger buns or spitting in the Salad Bar.

There is/was nothing stopping the remaining 6 from seeking out the cheater and reforming the group complicit in cheating.

SE is basically operating on Fight Club rules, and the idiot OP kicked broke rule 1.

[Saraide]

Tell ya what Kazhar: I hope that they DO make it official. I hope they DO have a world first race with supervised computers and no addons allowed.

Then we will see who really is the best at the game.



Never said she did. Never said that at all. What I did and will continue to say is that no one who does high end content with addons is in any position to tell anyone else to "be better at the game". Thats my point.

Just more dodging instead of putting up proof. As expected. Dont worry though, your RP addons are safe. (I bet that is why you dont want anti cheat in this game )