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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I agree at the end of the day the right decision was made, but during the course of this thread it was revealed that they didn't have written rules. So likely the removal took the group off-guard and interrupted any progress they were making. If there are boundaries that cannot be crossed, the rules should be set in advance with the group IMO.

    Yes it's great to have values you follow, but they shouldn't be arbitrary or hidden when the time of 7 other people comes into consideration.
    That's a good point and something they should take away from it going forward. I also mentioned as such in my reply no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamini View Post
    That's a good point and something they should take away from it going forward. I also mentioned as such in my reply no?
    Yeah I've been upvoting your posts. Sometimes I just ramble more than necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Yeah I've been upvoting your posts. Sometimes I just ramble more than necessary.
    Rambling is fine. If I come off as aggressive I apologize. I've been told many times I have a sharp tone online and it is something I am actively trying to work on.

    I personally run three different communities of ... 12, 18, and 140 people. I participate in several others, including a low-mid tier raid group as a member. I've seen plenty of organizations of different size fall apart over the course of my life. Most of the attitudes of 'Let someone cheat' are akin to people that traditionally I, or the people I have help run said communities, had to kick out for disruptive behavior. This is especially notable for cheaters and exploiters.

    Anyway have a nice night, all of you. Best of luck. o7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamini View Post
    Rambling is fine. If I come off as aggressive I apologize. I've been told many times I have a sharp tone online and it is something I am actively trying to work on.

    I personally run three different communities of ... 12, 18, and 140 people. I participate in several others, including a low-mid tier raid group as a member. I've seen plenty of organizations of different size fall apart over the course of my life. Most of the attitudes of 'Let someone cheat' are akin to people that traditionally I, or the people I have help run said communities, had to kick out for disruptive behavior. This is especially notable for cheaters and exploiters.

    Anyway have a nice night, all of you. Best of luck. o7
    Keep trying to paint the so called "cheaters" as bad people, as if people that dont "cheat" are all holy and never do anything wrong lmao, this is so low
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Keep trying to paint the so called "cheaters" as bad people, as if people that dont "cheat" are all holy and never do anything wrong lmao, this is so low
    Why say so-called and put quotation marks around the word "cheat" though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kansene View Post
    Why say so-called and put quotation marks around the word "cheat" though?
    Because to me zooming further out is not cheating. It should be in the game by default. And it already is for people with very high resolutions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Because to me zooming further out is not cheating. It should be in the game by default. And it already is for people with very high resolutions.
    Granted, you don't necessarily agree with the terms of service even though you press "I agree", that horse is beaten to death already.
    Fair enough, you have your views, I have mine, and SE has theirs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Because to me zooming further out is not cheating. It should be in the game by default. And it already is for people with very high resolutions.
    I am willing to put money that come 7.0 we will be able to zoom out even further. UAV will be baseline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Because to me zooming further out is not cheating. It should be in the game by default. And it already is for people with very high resolutions.
    According to the TOS that have been quoted here it literally is. The definition on this type of cheat IS clearly worded.
    What you personally think is worth exactly zero.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Keep trying to paint the so called "cheaters" as bad people, as if people that dont "cheat" are all holy and never do anything wrong lmao, this is so low
    Tell me you're fourteen without telling me you're fourteen.
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