Need advice: static imploding because of cheater.

[Pixieh]

Thank god some people like you are hollier than thou and never do anything wrong be it in game or in life. They also follow every single rule, in both situations and never fail, never will.

"IT'S THE LAW !!" "ITS THE TOS !!!" "I shall not do anything else but follow the law and the TOS and I will abide by them with my life, and I will be rewarded by a little pat on the head by Yoshi P as a thank you for following the rules"

Hope it's worth it buddy, and hope you'll get that little pat on the head, that way you can feel validated and you'll feel your crusade isnt absolutely worthless. (newsflash : it is worthless)

You're honestly trying to shame me for playing according to the rules I agreed to upon signing up? What the hell is wrong with you?

Just wish more looked at it that way.

So you wish more people would turn a blind eye on blatant TOS breakers. Nice.

In my eyes my run was legit

You're clearly not knowing what legit means.


adjective: legit

1.
conforming to the rules; legal.

If you cheat your way to a clear than that's literally the opposite of legit.

[Saraide]

For any TOS super experts out there: do the TOS say anything about having to report people? Is that required by the TOS?

[Hoodcat]

I mean, none of you would have legitimately beaten it if you had a cheater in your group.

Wana tell me exactly how one person with zoom cheat did anything for the group? Zoom is only effective if all 8 are using or one is doing to draw maps/feed info which already exist for anyone to youtube/google. Which he wasn't doing! Prog is only as fast as your slowest learner, him knowing the mechs in less pulls means nothing if the 8th guy dosnt know them.

One guy isnt going to carry a Ulti to victory, its impossible.

you guys are so lol and extreme on things =p

[Daibunnie]

I mean, none of you would have legitimately beaten it if you had a cheater in your group.

"Legitimately" according to who? The players who can barely make it through a dungeon?

[Bobby66]

You're honestly trying to shame me for playing according to the rules I agreed to upon signing up? What the hell is wrong with you?




So you wish more people would turn a blind eye on blatant TOS breakers. Nice.





You're clearly not knowing what legit means.


adjective: legit

1.
conforming to the rules; legal.

If you cheat your way to a clear than that's literally the opposite of legit.

Here is the funny thing about things like this, normally to a cheater all that matters is their own personal truth. Also per my example I never stated I was the one that cheated. Also another factor is normally a cheater does not think what they are doing is cheating so they have a self justification that they use to validate their actions. You are trying to enforce a something they do not care about.

I said if I was part of a group and later found out someone cheated, and SE choose to take my clears away I would not be upset I would just shrug it off because I did clear the run and to me personally it was a legit cause I did not take part in the cheats myself. The OP could have easily just told the person to stop using cheats, and left it at that. The progress they made with them using the cheats would not be invalid or anything. Even if say they found out later the person cheated, and their run was now being questioned, if they had not know or the person lied and said they did stop but did not stop. I would personally just take the rewards away from the one that cheated. I do not think you should just blindly go and punish a group for the actions of one.

I do not get this stance you are imposing a standard they do not align with or follow, if they did they would not be cheating. Do you really think they care what the rules state? That is my point to them nothing anyone says or does will detract from what they have done in their own head most of the time. They will blame someone else, come up with a different story. People are having a debate over a topic that the party that has done the action does not care about in any shape or form. If you do not find it legit cool, if they find their run legit also cool. Why do people care so much if others cheat or not not like their was a massive prize pool and stake we are legit just talking about bragging rights and some minor 15 min of fame.

Overall I do wish people would take care of their own life and house before they start to question the actions of others. Overall that has always been my issue with this cheating topic, if someone does not agree with the rules and breaks them do you think telling them no you did not earn it would detract from what they did to themselves? Normally it does not, I have friends that brag about getting high ranks in FPS games but I am like bruh you use aimbot, they do not care. To them it still requires effort and still feels good. Banning them, shunning them does not take away the feeling they had in that moment. Same thing with my college mates that cheated on exams in school. They are happy as could be right now, they have good paying jobs and the past is the past. People will cheat and often a cheater will be okay with it no matter what one says or does to them.

[OogaShaka]

You kicked a cheater, he deserved to be kicked FOR CHEATING, I agree with your decision and anyone that doesn't in my humble opinion also cheats.

[Hoodcat]

hmmm aparently it randomly picks another persons post when the quoted post gets deleted mid reply hah =p

[Kolaina]

Wana tell me exactly how one person with zoom cheat did anything for the group? Zoom is only effective if all 8 are using or one is doing to draw maps/feed info which already exist for anyone to youtube/google. Which he wasn't doing! Prog is only as fast as your slowest learner, him knowing the mechs in less pulls means nothing if the 8th guy dosnt know them.

One guy isnt going to carry a Ulti to victory, its impossible.

you guys are so lol and extreme on things =p

If that 1 guy is doing the call outs then they are doing something for the group that utilizes their illicit advantage.

Had you taken a moment to think of it, you would be able to answer your own question

[Hoodcat]

If that 1 guy is doing the call outs then they are doing something for the group that utilizes their illicit advantage.

Had you taken a moment to think of it, you would be able to answer your own question

You guys know we have a scenario here right? We have this guy wasnt doing that. Stop makeing up other reasons that do not apply to this, They said he didnt tell them or do anything with it for them.

you guys are just gas lighting now, makeing them some world week one proggers

[Kolaina]

You guys know we have a scenario here right? We have this guy wasnt doing that. Stop makeing up other reasons that do not apply to this, They said he didnt tell them or do anything with it for them.

You didn’t speak of that scenario specifically in your post. It came off as general about uav itself. Regardless, my point still stands. 1 person using illicit software can effect the entire group, even when the others arent using it themselves