Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
Im still waiting to hear why it is that this "much harder content" cant be cleared without all these mods and plugins

If raiders are as good as they say they are, if they are more skilled than other players as they keep claiming they are....then they should be able to clear this harder content WITHOUT addons.

Done here.
It is pretty simple, both sides are petty. If people want to use their plugins go for it, it is not for me I will kindly just pass on said groups. I am also not going to go around and police the action of others I do not have the head space for that. Let people do as they please, even if someone says my clear is moot because we later found out someone was using plugins or w/e I would simply shrug it off and call it a day. In my eyes my run was legit even if SE took my reward away, I cleared it once I can do it again, even still even if people say I did not do it, or SE took my rewards away they can never take away the fact I did indeed clear the fight.

People harp too much on cheating and all this stuff in my opinion. This legit reminds me of what drew me out competitive pokemon, a handful of people going after those that gen mons and it just got salty and not a fun environment to be around. I did not even gen mon's, I just wanted to compete and do my very best. I do not care what my opponent does or what they did leading up to the match. I just worried about myself and my play.

That being said if someone does willfully break the ToS do not be epehands: when action gets taken against your account, or people do not align with what your doing. Same case for the OP do not be shocked your group was not to keen on losing out on how many hours of prog because of your own personal beliefs.