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    It's not wrong to point out that OP is wrong for immediately kicking without consulting the rest of the static. The static is a team effort, not consulting the rest of the team before taking any decision is akin to telling people "It's my way or the highway", that's not a good quality in a leader in real life, I don't see why people think it's a good quality for a leader in a game.

    I feel like a lot of people are too busy parading around on their high horse pointing at the cheater to notice the 6 other people that the OP massively inconvenienced.
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    Kicker who are you at the end of the day? They are doing their own thing, you do yours. You may feel they do not deserve it but end of the day the only one that matters if the one that got the clear.
    By cheating. Not on their own merits. Not by their own skill.

    If they feel their clear is deserved then it is to them.
    Im sure they are happy with their "clear", pity it wasnt on their own merits.

    I feel like a lot of people are too busy parading around on their high horse pointing at the cheater to notice the 6 other people that the OP massively inconvenienced.
    ..thats on the cheater. Not on OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    By cheating. Not on their own merits. Not by their own skill.



    Im sure they are happy with their "clear", pity it wasnt on their own merits.



    ..thats on the cheater. Not on OP.
    Thing is the only ones that care about the merits are the ones that opinion does not even matter to them on any level for the most part most likely. So why get so bent out of shape over a one sided beef?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Thing is the only ones that care about the merits are the ones that opinion does not even matter to them on any level for the most part most likely. So why get so bent out of shape over a one sided beef?
    It's pretty clear from their overall attitude that they aren't even a raider in the first place. Makes it extra funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    It's pretty clear from their overall attitude that they aren't even a raider in the first place. Makes it extra funny.
    Whats funny is you excusing people who cheat to win. Ill ask again, why is it you CANT clear this content without addons? Seriously...why? If you are a "raider" and a "better player" then........why do you need addons?
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 02-17-2023 at 12:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Whats funny is you excusing people who cheat to win. Ill ask again, why is it you CANT clear this content without addons?
    I can't see some markers.

    Does that count? :s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    I can't see some markers.

    Does that count? :s
    No. That's a you issue. Solving it by cheating is still cheating and breaking the TOS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    You're going to have to be a bit more specific with that, given that in a thread on third party tools, people insisted shaders were cheating.
    I don't make it a habit to educate the willfully ignorant and I am not about to start now.
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    Last edited by Pixieh; 02-17-2023 at 01:13 PM. Reason: Hit posting limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    ..thats on the cheater. Not on OP.
    The OP could've given the cheater an ultimatum "Stop using it or I kick you" then given them one last chance, or they could silently search for a replacement and kick the cheater once a new member was found. There's a lot of other options that wouldn't inconvenience the other 6 people as much as what they did.

    Let's not pretend the inconvenience is not entirely on OP's leadership. The action of kicking immediately with no backup plan is one that OP is entirely responsible for.
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