Need advice: static imploding because of cheater.

[Hoodcat]

Should have just asked him to stop continuing to use if you cared so much. Ruining friendship over a thing that’s been in the game for almost 10 years is silly when you say it out loud . All is far left or far right people do not matter and can preach all they want. Is your group, was it worth just not asking him to stop, regardless if he lies to you or not ? =p

[SeiyaSoiya]

Should have just asked him to stop continuing to use if you cared so much. Ruining friendship over a thing that’s been in the game for almost 10 years is silly when you say it out loud . All is far left or far right people do not matter and can preach all they want. Is your group, was it worth just not asking him to stop, regardless if he lies to you or not ? =p

oh okay so when UNNAMED_ was caught cheating we should have just told them to stop instead of instantly banning them and forcing them to delete their characters

[Anienai]

No handling a Salmon suspiciously? (Yes that's a real law in my country)

The Salmon Act 1986 is a United Kingdom Act of Parliament which outlines legislation that covers legal and illegal matter within the salmon farming and fishing industries. Among the provisions in the Act, it makes it illegal to "handle salmon in suspicious circumstances",[1] which is defined in law as when one believes, or could reasonably believe, that salmon has been illegally fished or that salmon—that has come from an illegal source—has been received, retained, removed, or disposed of.

[VictorSpoils]

he kept to himself and never talked about it.

streamed and showed himself using a zoomhack

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[Hoodcat]

oh okay so when UNNAMED_ was caught cheating we should have just told them to stop instead of instantly banning them and forcing them to delete their characters

Yeah, he’s a member or is he just some random and not your friend. Are you not building a relationship with him with hours put into the game? How’s finding a rep going buddy?

Zoom cheats been here since dive bombs on Twintania, for the people that couldnt take 2 steps left and right it’s not going anywhere

Games still in beta.

[Kansene]

I cleared a duty after watching a guide can anyone tell me how my clear is suddenly more "legit" than someone who used a zoomhack just because I didn't download any plugin?

One of them gives you instructions outside the game to remember.

The other modifies your actual game and provides real-time assistance that directly affects your gameplay.

If we're going to go with the ever popular use of metaphors, the former is an instruction manual to a lego kit. The latter is someone fetching the correct pieces for you and helping you assemble the kit. The kit you agreed to assemble unassisted.

To further drive home the point:
Clearing the duty after watching a guide means you researched the duty and prepared to face what the game throws at you. You operated within the terms set by the dev team and did nothing wrong.
PvE in FFXIV is a memory game, and repetition and memorization is the intended learning method.

Clearing a duty using addons means that rather than face what the game throws at you, you make a conscious decision to avoid the challenge you are faced with, and use illegitimate tools to invalidate and bastardize it. You decided to skip parts of it and create an easy-mode version. After literally promising not to do it. That is what you agree to when you accept the terms of service.

[Pixieh]

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The cheater probably kept it to themself as they progressed until one day they had the mindblowingly good idea to stream and either didn't take into account that it would expose them or just didn't care.

If that's not the case, I'll join you; ???????.

[Hoodcat]

Prolly wanted to record mistakes, some people play with mods for so long they do not realize it isn’t apart of the game naturally. A lot of people record themselves on twitch to review mistakes

[Hoodcat]

Tbh that NVIDIA record thing has become popular too

[Bobby66]

It is awesome you stood for your morals, but don't be shocked that people do not share your view especially when it throws time out the window. Statics let alone unlimite statics take time to form, and team cohesion is not something that is formed overnight. As you said you had a good thing going amd had a difficult choice to make, and you choose the option that best aligns with your own morals. Some of your members did not share the same feeling.