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  1. #161
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    Try it, you would make my day.
    I'm not here to entertain you. But apparently those who have a different opinion than you must not understand the nuances of a thread. So typical.
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  2. #162
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixieh View Post
    I'm not here to entertain you. But apparently those who have a different opinion than you must not understand the nuances of a thread. So typical.
    No. It's because of your simple absolutist surface-level arguments, not because I disagree with you. There are people who I disagree with on this topic who have written very nuanced takes on the subject.
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  3. #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    No. It's because of your simple absolutist surface-level arguments, not because I disagree with you. There are people who I disagree with on this topic who have written very nuanced takes on the subject.
    So I take it you are one of those who say cheating is a 'grey' area worthy to have a nuanced discussion about? It isn't. Cheating is cheating. 'But so many do it' is not a valid argument. Some of the posts here really go to lengths to downplay cheating just to save their precious mods and that is what I'm taking the most issue with. 'I don't care if it enables others to cheat as long as I get to keep my ducky slippers!' That's not okay.
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  4. #164
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixieh View Post
    So I take it you are one of those who say cheating is a 'grey' area worthy to have a nuanced discussion about? It isn't. Cheating is cheating. 'But so many do it' is not a valid argument. Some of the posts here really go to lengths to downplay cheating just to save their precious mods and that is what I'm taking the most issue with. 'I don't care if it enables others to cheat as long as I get to keep my ducky slippers!' That's not okay.
    Life has a lot of grey areas and I'm dam sure you don't agree with every rule/law imposed on you nor do you follow them all.
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  5. #165
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    Life has a lot of grey areas and I'm dam sure you don't agree with every rule/law imposed on you nor do you follow them all.
    You are right, I don't agree with a few laws in my country but you can be darn sure I follow them. Consequences, they're a thing.
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  6. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    I lead a raiding static, we are doing TOP and got to phase 3. Alt character for anonymity purposes

    Recently a member streamed and showed himself using a zoomhack, so I swiftly and immediately kicked him from the static, reported him and blocked him.

    Yet now after 3 days trying to find a replacement, some members of the static started arguing with me and 2 of them left.

    They say that it was petty of me to eff over the progress of 6 other people just to get rid of a cheater.

    They say that it's okay that he cheats because he kept to himself and never talked about it.

    My other raiding friends also told me what I did was a really bad idea.

    So now the group that was going so well is breaking apart and it's my fault, however I don't think I did anything wrong, cheating is forbidden by the ToS.

    if you didn't do this and someone reported him, you could've all been at risk. if your buddies don't see why this is an issue then they're not your buddies.
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  7. #167
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixieh View Post
    You are right, I don't agree with a few laws in my country but you can be darn sure I follow them. Consequences, they're a thing.
    No J-walking?
    No Torrenting?
    No Dodgy parking?
    No handling a Salmon suspiciously? (Yes that's a real law in my country)
    everyone breaks rules from time to time.
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  8. #168
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    No J-walking?
    No Torrenting?
    No Dodgy parking?
    No handling a Salmon suspiciously? (Yes that's a real law in my country)
    everyone breaks rules from time to time.
    Not knowingly no. I guess I'm a goodie two shoes but that's how I was raised, I pay for my movies and stream on amazon prime/Netflix, I don't drive and actually, I will get back to you on that salmon thing.
    Plus I've seen Final Destination, I'm not j-walking ever.
    I even pick up my dogs poop every single time!

    Those who cheat though do it knowingly and just because SE doesn't have a way yet to detect it doesn't make it okay as some posters in this thread try to proclaim.
    Players who cheat/mod only encourage Yoshi P. to eventually cave and use an anti-cheat guard and THEN the outrage and drama will hit new heights and people have nothing but themselves to blame.
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  9. #169
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    I cleared a duty after watching a guide can anyone tell me how my clear is suddenly more "legit" than someone who used a zoomhack just because I didn't download any plugin?
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  10. #170
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    I cleared a duty after watching a guide can anyone tell me how my clear is suddenly more "legit" than someone who used a zoomhack just because I didn't download any plugin?
    You didn't break the TOS.

    adjective: legit

    1.
    conforming to the rules; legal.
    "is this car legit?"
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    Last edited by Pixieh; 02-17-2023 at 06:35 AM.

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