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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    The person not having good arguments is you because you dont know the mods you are trying to talk about. My point is that mods like mare have the exact same impact on SE making cosmetics as zoomers have on SE making raids. I think we both agree that cosmetic mods shouldnt stop SE from making cool new outfits. The same logic applies to raids. Some people cheating shouldnt stop them from making raids. It would be a bad decision. Everyone can see this when it's about cosmetics but a lot of people fail to apply that logic to raids.
    I think there was some kind of misunderstanding. I never said SE would or should stop making Raids. I asserted that if SE accepted mods that it would force their design team to alter fight design in a way that would alienate people who don't use mods. Similar to the way WoW runs now. You then asserted that it was no different than cosmetic mods, and I assumed then you were trying to make the argument that if you accept one then you have to accept the other. It sounds like now your not making that point. So I guess I'm confused to what part of my assertion you actually disagree with if any?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobuyuki_Sanada View Post
    I think there was some kind of misunderstanding. I never said SE would or should stop making Raids. I asserted that if SE accepted mods that it would force their design team to alter fight design in a way that would alienate people who don't use mods. Similar to the way WoW runs now. You then asserted that it was no different than cosmetic mods, and I assumed then you were trying to make the argument that if you accept one then you have to accept the other. It sounds like now your not making that point. So I guess I'm confused to what part of my assertion you actually disagree with if any?
    "Cosmetic mods are widely accepted because they have no bearing on the design team at SE and how they create content." This is the specific part of your statement I took issue with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    "Cosmetic mods are widely accepted because they have no bearing on the design team at SE and how they create content." This is the specific part of your statement I took issue with.
    So what part? The widely accepted? or do you think the SE outfit design team is considering mods when making their content? If it is with cosmetics I was talking in the sense of their current state not what mods could become, but that is why I don't have issue with SE enforcing bans on cosmetic mods. I don't want to see any of it normalized even if most cosmetic mods are currently victimless.
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