Need advice: static imploding because of cheater.

[Azuri]

I like how we were talking about modding outfits and you jumped over to adventure plates. Who's doing the gymnastics now

Look at this sweet summer child. Ah, so precious.

[GTK0HLK]

What a mess..,

First off, so many bringing the various types of Third-party Changes, like if it had any meaning or worth in the conversation.
You all are just getting people stuck on a loop to clarify and change the subject.
[TLDR: If it's accessibility, then one should ask SE to implement, unless its extreme levels of accessibility, which I'm sure the know they won't take down cause of bad PR. Stuff like color would/should be in.]
(This is not part of the Original Topic.^ and visual changes don't matter as it's semantics and distracts from the topic Disingenuously.)

Second: There is no point in denying or trying to worm out of the fact that cheating is illegal in this game. Specifically in this topic, any kind of Third-party adjustment or changes.(ties into above, stop bringing up ifs or maybe, not this one)
Full stop undeniable.

Third: OP had communication disconnect for a sec with their parties desires.
but many make the minority or chunk seem like a large majority.
Many players are casual or like the struggle.[I myself like a fair PVP but we know there are Black sheep to cull there]
So their needs for Third-party Cheats are very minor. it's only a few who believe they can clear regardless. without merit to that belief. or those who believe they have the right to play outside the box they bought into.

If anything, you all just shone a light on them as an appealing lead(if only they can learn to COMMUNICATE a bit more) for those who want no nonsense.

We don't need Third-party in this game, and if there is something that is needed, we need to ask for it.(though many do not. or face opposition saying it exists as a Mod, so no.)
[The extreme cases of accessibility will exist without SE doing anything to them, they are not a point to bring up]

Cut and dry, this whole thread only grew cause people liked to think their view on Cheating mattered. When it was set in stone long ago what should and shouldn't exist.[and what we as players should demand from them to implement, and not push things til it explodes/implements in a chaotic way like timers.]

[Nobuyuki_Sanada]

I love how confidentely you admit to not knowing what I'm talking about.

I don't mod so no I don't know what you are referencing but again it has nothing to do with outfits which is what we were talking about. You were adamant that mods should be ok since they also were used for cosmetics, and the best example you could share was adventure plate modding.

[LianaThorne]

What a mess..,

First off, so many bringing the various types of Third-party Changes, like if it had any meaning or worth in the conversation.
You all are just getting people stuck on a loop to clarify and change the subject.
[TLDR: If it's accessibility, then one should ask SE to implement, unless its extreme levels of accessibility, which I'm sure the know they won't take down cause of bad PR. Stuff like color would/should be in.]
(This is not part of the Original Topic.^ and visual changes don't matter as it's semantics and distracts from the topic Disingenuously.)

Second: There is no point in denying or trying to worm out of the fact that cheating is illegal in this game. Specifically in this topic, any kind of Third-party adjustment or changes.(ties into above, stop bringing up ifs or maybe, not this one)
Full stop undeniable.

Third: OP had communication disconnect for a sec with their parties desires.
but many make the minority or chunk seem like a large majority.
Many players are casual or like the struggle.[I myself like a fair PVP but we know there are Black sheep to cull there]
So their needs for Third-party Cheats are very minor. it's only a few who believe they can clear regardless. without merit to that belief. or those who believe they have the right to play outside the box they bought into.

If anything, you all just shone a light on them as an appealing lead(if only they can learn to COMMUNICATE a bit more) for those who want no nonsense.

We don't need Third-party in this game, and if there is something that is needed, we need to ask for it.(though many do not. or face opposition saying it exists as a Mod, so no.)
[The extreme cases of accessibility will exist without SE doing anything to them, they are not a point to bring up]

Cut and dry, this whole thread only grew cause people liked to think their view on Cheating mattered. When it was set in stone long ago what should and shouldn't exist.[and what we as players should demand from them to implement, and not push things til it explodes/implements in a chaotic way like timers.]

Let's just add it to the list of the other things that have been asked for for years now and still aren't fixed/implemented. You don't think people haven't been asking for accessibility options?

Again, still doesn't make a difference if Square can't enforce the ToS properly without community reports.

[Kansene]

I don't mod so no I don't know what you are referencing but again it has nothing to do with outfits which is what we were talking about. You were adamant that mods should be ok since they also were used for cosmetics, and the best example you could share was adventure plate modding.

People posting "Mare Lamentorum" in their plate are telling fellow users of a certain mod that they have that mod.
It's used to share mod settings or something with other players so that their modded characters look the same on your screen as they do on their own screen.

[Saraide]

I don't mod so no I don't know what you are referencing but again it has nothing to do with outfits which is what we were talking about. You were adamant that mods should be ok since they also were used for cosmetics, and the best example you could share was adventure plate modding.

If you have no idea what mods are out there maybe you should hold back on commenting one how those mods will or wont influence SE's designs. I'm not talking about adventure plate modding btw. You are just clueless.

[Nobuyuki_Sanada]

People posting "Mare Lamentorum" in their plate are telling fellow users of a certain mod that they have that mod.
It's used to share mod settings or something with other players so that their modded characters look the same on your screen as they do on their own screen.

Thank you for explaining, so it is asking someone else to mod their game in order for your mods to even appear. Wow this is even more irrelevant to the conversation than I thought.....

[Ath192]

What a mess..,

First off, so many bringing the various types of Third-party Changes, like if it had any meaning or worth in the conversation.
You all are just getting people stuck on a loop to clarify and change the subject.
[TLDR: If it's accessibility, then one should ask SE to implement, unless its extreme levels of accessibility, which I'm sure the know they won't take down cause of bad PR. Stuff like color would/should be in.]
(This is not part of the Original Topic.^ and visual changes don't matter as it's semantics and distracts from the topic Disingenuously.)

Second: There is no point in denying or trying to worm out of the fact that cheating is illegal in this game. Specifically in this topic, any kind of Third-party adjustment or changes.(ties into above, stop bringing up ifs or maybe, not this one)
Full stop undeniable.

Third: OP had communication disconnect for a sec with their parties desires.
but many make the minority or chunk seem like a large majority.
Many players are casual or like the struggle.[I myself like a fair PVP but we know there are Black sheep to cull there]
So their needs for Third-party Cheats are very minor. it's only a few who believe they can clear regardless. without merit to that belief. or those who believe they have the right to play outside the box they bought into.

If anything, you all just shone a light on them as an appealing lead(if only they can learn to COMMUNICATE a bit more) for those who want no nonsense.

We don't need Third-party in this game, and if there is something that is needed, we need to ask for it.(though many do not. or face opposition saying it exists as a Mod, so no.)
[The extreme cases of accessibility will exist without SE doing anything to them, they are not a point to bring up]

Cut and dry, this whole thread only grew cause people liked to think their view on Cheating mattered. When it was set in stone long ago what should and shouldn't exist.[and what we as players should demand from them to implement, and not push things til it explodes/implements in a chaotic way like timers.]

xD This person.. pffft. How about we all disagree huh?

[Nobuyuki_Sanada]

If you have no idea what mods are out there maybe you should hold back on commenting one how those mods will or wont influence SE's designs. I'm not talking about adventure plate modding btw. You are just clueless.

You don't need to know every single mod ever made to explain a general stance against mods as a whole. If you have arguments or counter points to my original statement I would love to address those but now people are just getting petty because they have no good arguments.

[Mosha]

So was op right to remove the guy from their static? it's their static their choice. However, OP went about it in the most stupid way possible and shot themselves in the foot.
Diplomacy and communication are key to being an effective static leader, you should have talked to your static mates and to the offender to hear their opinions on the situation. This would also better inform your opinion and yes, you should give him a chance to stop using it even if your assumptions would end up being correct, for two reasons 1. you could be wrong . 2. It's about doing due diligence, crossing your i's and t's it would have made you look more level-headed rather than someone who is rash and on a short trigger. Since this now can affect your future finding replacements due to you having this reputation.

is this bait? eh. but food for thought.