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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobuyuki_Sanada View Post
    No that is incorrect, SE has even said so. Players are circumventing difficulty by using mods, meaning if the design teams wants to make truly difficult content they would need to account for players having mods making the game easier. They obviously dont want to do this as it would force players who dont use mods to get them to complete content. This is why WoW is the way it is. They allowed mods, people got used to playing with them, and now to make challenging content they have to consider them or the content they create will be too easy.
    It is correct, people modding in completely new outfits is making the creation of outfits on behalf of SE just as pointless as third party tools do for raids. You cant have it both ways or you just sound like someone trying to mental gymnastics their use of cosmetic mods being okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    It is correct, people modding in completely new outfits is making the creation of outfits on behalf of SE just as pointless as third party tools do for raids. You cant have it both ways or you just sound like someone trying to mental gymnastics their use of cosmetic mods being okay.
    I have to say that third party tools are an all or nothing too. Because if SE takes action or something it's going to look for everything. So people can't separate any of them. However, being that XIV isn't really a competitive game I don't think this sort of stuff is the game killer people are making it out to be.

    Even ults are not competitive, they are for personal enjoyment, whether people make a race out of it or parse the fight that isn't official SE stuff, so competition just isn't in the intended design of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    It is correct, people modding in completely new outfits is making the creation of outfits on behalf of SE just as pointless as third party tools do for raids. You cant have it both ways or you just sound like someone trying to mental gymnastics their use of cosmetic mods being okay.
    The mods you use to make yourself look different don't affect what other people see. If it made the outfits your wearing visible to others they would absolutely have issue with it. You sound like someone who just doesn't want to accept the fact mods are cheating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobuyuki_Sanada View Post
    The mods you use to make yourself look different don't affect what other people see. If it made the outfits your wearing visible to others they would absolutely have issue with it. You sound like someone who just doesn't want to accept the fact mods are cheating.
    Funny you should say that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobuyuki_Sanada View Post
    The mods you use to make yourself look different don't affect what other people see. If it made the outfits your wearing visible to others they would absolutely have issue with it. You sound like someone who just doesn't want to accept the fact mods are cheating.
    Yea and people having mare lamentorum in their adventure plate just really like the area lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Yea and people having mare lamentorum in their adventure plate just really like the area lol.
    I like how we were talking about modding outfits and you jumped over to adventure plates. Who's doing the gymnastics now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobuyuki_Sanada View Post
    I like how we were talking about modding outfits and you jumped over to adventure plates. Who's doing the gymnastics now
    I love how confidentely you admit to not knowing what I'm talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    I love how confidentely you admit to not knowing what I'm talking about.
    I don't mod so no I don't know what you are referencing but again it has nothing to do with outfits which is what we were talking about. You were adamant that mods should be ok since they also were used for cosmetics, and the best example you could share was adventure plate modding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobuyuki_Sanada View Post
    I don't mod so no I don't know what you are referencing but again it has nothing to do with outfits which is what we were talking about. You were adamant that mods should be ok since they also were used for cosmetics, and the best example you could share was adventure plate modding.
    People posting "Mare Lamentorum" in their plate are telling fellow users of a certain mod that they have that mod.
    It's used to share mod settings or something with other players so that their modded characters look the same on your screen as they do on their own screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobuyuki_Sanada View Post
    I don't mod so no I don't know what you are referencing but again it has nothing to do with outfits which is what we were talking about. You were adamant that mods should be ok since they also were used for cosmetics, and the best example you could share was adventure plate modding.
    If you have no idea what mods are out there maybe you should hold back on commenting one how those mods will or wont influence SE's designs. I'm not talking about adventure plate modding btw. You are just clueless.
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