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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    It does affect others, in as much negative as positive. I'm pretty sure third party tools contributed to you being able to see how much time buffs/debuffs people have left in your party window.

    I'm not exactly for them, but the reason they are so widespread is because the category third party tools is too general a description to imply a completely negative or a positive thing. I've seen some texture packs for FFXI, a 20 year old game, that if I were to play the game today I would consider almost essential being in a 4k monitor. And those things likely contribute to the life of XI, which wouldn't be online today if it were no longer making a profit for SE.



    Why is it that whenever someone cheats in XIV, people always bring out the "but what about texture mods"



    I'm talking about cheating. Literal cheating. Qol stuff is not cheating. Paisley Park was cheating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Why is 8t that whenever someone cheats in XIV, people always bring out the "but what about texture mods"



    I'm talking about cheating. Literal cheating. Qol stuff is not cheating. Paisley Park was cheating.
    Because you weren't talking about cheating, you were talking about third party tools and an effect they had on others. here is the quote:

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    People keep sayi g it doesn't effect others. I'm pretty sure the use of third party tools in ultimate directly contributed to me not being able to place or remove markers in combat now.
    If you had said cheating to gain an advantage in fights, I wouldn't have said what I did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Because you weren't talking about cheating, you were talking about third party tools and an effect they had on others. here is the quote:



    If you had said cheating to gain an advantage in fights, I wouldn't have said what I did.

    I thought it was public knowledge the use of cheating (through a 3rd party tool) is what caused the removal of the ability of in combat marker placement. I guess I was wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I thought it was public knowledge the use of cheating (through a 3rd party tool) is what caused the removal of the ability of in combat marker placement. I guess I was wrong.
    I seem to recall a marker placement macro series that completely bypassed arena restrictions heavily contributing to that change as well. Markers started outside, then were moved inside mid-combat at a certain point. Or was it the other way around? Been a while.
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