Need advice: static imploding because of cheater.

[Alice9]

People cheat in pve games all the time. What does it matter to me

I honestly agree with what you've said overall. However I find the deeper issue to be when cheating in PVE affects other, non-willing players. No one would care if you one shot elden beast with a hacked weapon on your own- but if you suddenly start playing co-op with a friend and they can't wait to fight that really tough boss up ahead and you just one-shot it and they weren't aware you were gonna cheat in the first place, well, they might feel disappointed, and in my mind, understandably so.

While the above example is very exaggerated my point is this: a lot of posters here are defending using cheats because its a personal decision that they say doesn't affect others- but I think it can. Just because you don't feel your personal accomplishment is reduced by someone else cheating does not mean other people feel the same way. OP obviously was upset by having a cheater. I would be upset if I learned someone in my group was cheating as well- as I wouldn't want to possibly be carried by someone who simply has an advantage over me.

As you've said, "This thread specifically is far more about group communication than accepting someone cheating." Agreed. But I think there's accountability to be taken on both sides. OP should've been more clear from the get-go about the rules of the static. But players using cheats should not automatically assume it doesn't affect anyone else but themselves. Its a group effort, and I agree that everyone should be on the same page from start to finish.

[Zebraoracle]

I honestly agree with what you've said overall. However I find the deeper issue to be when cheating in PVE affects other, non-willing players. No one would care if you one shot elden beast with a hacked weapon on your own- but if you suddenly start playing co-op with a friend and they can't wait to fight that really tough boss up ahead and you just one-shot it and they weren't aware you were gonna cheat in the first place, well, they might feel disappointed, and in my mind, understandably so.

While the above example is very exaggerated my point is this: a lot of posters here are defending using cheats because its a personal decision that they say doesn't affect others- but I think it can. Just because you don't feel your personal accomplishment is reduced by someone else cheating does not mean other people feel the same way. OP obviously was upset by having a cheater. I would be upset if I learned someone in my group was cheating as well- as I wouldn't want to possibly be carried by someone who simply has an advantage over me.

As you've said, "This thread specifically is far more about group communication than accepting someone cheating." Agreed. But I think there's accountability to be taken on both sides. OP should've been more clear from the get-go about the rules of the static. But players using cheats should not automatically assume it doesn't affect anyone else but themselves. Its a group effort, and I agree that everyone should be on the same page from start to finish.

Nah, this thread is to bait people into arguing about mods again, plain and simple.

[Alice9]

Nah, this thread is to bait people into arguing about mods again, plain and simple.

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