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  1. #461
    Player AwesomeJr44's Avatar
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    Marel Nobelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    You know who has no say in drawing the line? The witch hunters who act like they are Square's personal police.
    100%

    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    Come on, people defend SE and swat away complaints while paying for the honor to do so. It's not that surprising there are people going "Teacher, teacher, that person has chat bubbles on their screenshot!" lol
    This is sadly too true.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Chat bubbles are cheating too ! Imagine the insane advantage over "normal" players, oh my, better ban them all!
    I'll have you know that chat bubbles give the immense in-game advantage of uh... cheating in an unspecified way!
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    Last edited by AwesomeJr44; 02-19-2023 at 02:38 PM.

  2. #462
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    Momo_Kozuki's Avatar
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    Legally, you do a right thing according to ToS


    Morally, you do a right thing trying to uphold morality against grey area.


    Personally, I hope the person you kicked get a more tolerating static.
    (4)

  3. #463
    Player Troxbark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Momo_Kozuki View Post
    Legally, you do a right thing according to ToS


    Morally, you do a right thing trying to uphold morality against grey area.


    Personally, I hope the person you kicked get a more tolerating static.
    Found a cheater, lmao.
    (4)

  4. #464
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    Rolder50's Avatar
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    I'll have you know that chat bubbles give the immense in-game advantage of uh... cheating in an unspecified way!
    Clearly people are going to use chat bubbles to announce mechanics without people having to look at the chat box
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  5. #465
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    Hoodcat's Avatar
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    Carmina Gadelica
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Clearly people are going to use chat bubbles to announce mechanics without people having to look at the chat box
    The code has been cracked, purge all the records!
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  6. #466
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    Khloe Entialpoh
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    Should you have spoken to him 1st? I don't see why not.

    Should you have discussed it with your static 1st, absolutely Yes. You don't represent the entire static.

    There are chances of finding other/ better statics. Just take it as a lesson experienced.
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  7. #467
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    VelKallor's Avatar
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    Vel Kallor
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    So when you say "By all means, go ahead and check. The results speak for themselves.", I assume you yourself did the research to be so bold and thus would have zero problem sharing your sources? Because sorry, I might be tremendously stupid and I own that, culpa mea, but I can't find that information anywhere.
    On the JP clear rates? Sure. Took me all of ten seconds

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/436066

    Why are the savage clear rates in the JP Datacenter so much higher than NA?


    and heres 2022

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...tails_are_out/

    - In terms of Pandaemonium raid Normal and Savage participation (measured by what % have the minion for Normal's 4th circle, and Mount for Savage), almost all of the worlds with the highest participation are on the Japanese servers (Mana worlds have the highest %, then Gaia then Elemental), Gilgamesh is the highest non-JP world. The percentage of people who have both the Normal Minion and Savage Mount ranges from 46% in Asura (Mana) to 4% in Mateus (Crystal).
    and here

    https://www.fanbyte.com/games/news/f...walker-launch/

    As for Savage content, Japan still outpaces the rest of us when it comes to the most players with a clear. The census uses active player data from characters with the normal Pandaemonium raid minion and Savage difficulty mount. Asura and Chocobo sport some of the highest clear rates among active players, with Demi-Phoinix mount ownership hovering around 22-23% on those servers.
    Regardless of how this or any thread evolves, this is getting to be a circular argument, hence pointless.

    *sigh*

    In any case, Ive made my point, agree or disagree.....up to you.

    Im out.
    (4)
    Last edited by VelKallor; 02-19-2023 at 05:49 PM.

  8. #468
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    Bobby66's Avatar
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    Paper Wait
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    On the JP clear rates? Sure. Took me all of ten seconds

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/436066





    and heres 2022

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...tails_are_out/



    and here

    https://www.fanbyte.com/games/news/f...walker-launch/



    Regardless of how this or any thread evolves, this is getting to be a circular argument, hence pointless.

    *sigh*

    In any case, Ive made my point, agree or disagree.....up to you.

    Im out.
    Okay so they have higher clears, what is your point? What does this prove regarding addons?
    (2)
    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

  9. #469
    Player Sesera's Avatar
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    Komi Shouko
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Okay so they have higher clears, what is your point? What does this prove regarding addons?
    JP really dislike that kind of stuff while people in EU/NA memed with UAVOnline it was something else for the JP community.
    So them having high clear and their take toward third party we can assume third party are indeed not requiered at all.
    But that also doesn't account for people playing in JP servers but not being from JP who won't be as reticent to use third party.
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  10. #470
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    Aravell's Avatar
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    I really don't understand why people have this image that the JP playerbase is this hivemind that all despise and would never use addons. They're people just like everyone else. They often do log runs and speedruns too, those require ACT, which is an addon.
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