Need advice: static imploding because of cheater.

[Zebraoracle]

Again, so is discord. Should the ToS be enacted when the PF finder has parties that require you to join their discord server? I can hear the complaints from the BA runners already if that's the case, lmao. Either way, it's a non issue since we can have this song and dance until the end of service but it's ultimately up to the devs and GMs to decide where the line is drawn.

I agree with your sentiment, but I think realistically we all know Square's never going to punish for discord usage.

But yes, it's down to them to draw the line.

Where has the line been drawn? Don't ask don't tell.
You know who has no say in drawing the line? The witch hunters who act like they are Square's personal police.

[Bobby66]

Their evidence will most likely be in Japan console is still king, since you cannot use addons on console which means JP does not use addons most the time. 100 bucks this is their proof.

[Midareyukki]

Their evidence will most likely be in Japan console is still king, since you cannot use addons on console which means JP does not use addons most the time. 100 bucks this is their proof.

That would at least be better than dropping fflogs like I half expect Because that's a website that holds logs, the very thing he seems to be against.

Still would require verifying if 1 out of 8 people in a JP only group is on a PC. All it takes is one person parsing and sharing the information with everyone and draw conclusions together.

The overall point of what I wrote though is that one can't just drop a statistic and say "look it up". It's far too easy to get away with that. After all, I did try to look it up, found no such case when I looked up people who had the Achievement "Heart to Heartless" done.

Plus I doubt hardcore content absolutely cannot be cleared without third party tools. But they do help in personal improvement throughout. Just as much as how I doubt people are saying "It cannot be done" in absolute terms either. Just that they likely help, and they do. But what do I know

[Bobby66]

That would at least be better than dropping fflogs like I half expect Because that's a website that holds logs, the very thing he seems to be against.

Still would require verifying if 1 out of 8 people in a JP only group is on a PC. All it takes is one person parsing and sharing the information with everyone and draw conclusions together.

The overall point of what I wrote though is that one can't just drop a statistic and say "look it up". It's far too easy to get away with that. After all, I did try to look it up, found no such case when I looked up people who had the Achievement "Heart to Heartless" done.

Plus I doubt hardcore content absolutely cannot be cleared without third party tools. But they do help in personal improvement throughout. Just as much as how I doubt people are saying "It cannot be done" in absolute terms either. Just that they likely help, and they do. But what do I know

Oh I agree, sadly that person has such a hate boner for addons that I doubt anything will sway them.

[Absimiliard]

Aight, time to reiterate something that's beaten to death at this point:

1.) Third-party tool usage is pretty common in the JP data centers as well.
2.) Console players do have access to a selection of third party-tools, albeit not as many as PC players.

[Momo_Kozuki]

Legally, you do a right thing according to ToS


Morally, you do a right thing trying to uphold morality against grey area.


Personally, I hope the person you kicked get a more tolerating static.

[Troxbark]

Legally, you do a right thing according to ToS


Morally, you do a right thing trying to uphold morality against grey area.


Personally, I hope the person you kicked get a more tolerating static.

Found a cheater, lmao.

[HeyMcFly]

Should you have spoken to him 1st? I don't see why not.

Should you have discussed it with your static 1st, absolutely Yes. You don't represent the entire static.

There are chances of finding other/ better statics. Just take it as a lesson experienced.

[VelKallor]

So when you say "By all means, go ahead and check. The results speak for themselves.", I assume you yourself did the research to be so bold and thus would have zero problem sharing your sources? Because sorry, I might be tremendously stupid and I own that, culpa mea, but I can't find that information anywhere.

On the JP clear rates? Sure. Took me all of ten seconds

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/436066

Why are the savage clear rates in the JP Datacenter so much higher than NA?

and heres 2022

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...tails_are_out/

- In terms of Pandaemonium raid Normal and Savage participation (measured by what % have the minion for Normal's 4th circle, and Mount for Savage), almost all of the worlds with the highest participation are on the Japanese servers (Mana worlds have the highest %, then Gaia then Elemental), Gilgamesh is the highest non-JP world. The percentage of people who have both the Normal Minion and Savage Mount ranges from 46% in Asura (Mana) to 4% in Mateus (Crystal).

and here

https://www.fanbyte.com/games/news/f...walker-launch/

As for Savage content, Japan still outpaces the rest of us when it comes to the most players with a clear. The census uses active player data from characters with the normal Pandaemonium raid minion and Savage difficulty mount. Asura and Chocobo sport some of the highest clear rates among active players, with Demi-Phoinix mount ownership hovering around 22-23% on those servers.

Regardless of how this or any thread evolves, this is getting to be a circular argument, hence pointless.

*sigh*

In any case, Ive made my point, agree or disagree.....up to you.

Im out.

[Bobby66]

On the JP clear rates? Sure. Took me all of ten seconds

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/436066





and heres 2022

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...tails_are_out/



and here

https://www.fanbyte.com/games/news/f...walker-launch/



Regardless of how this or any thread evolves, this is getting to be a circular argument, hence pointless.

*sigh*

In any case, Ive made my point, agree or disagree.....up to you.

Im out.

Okay so they have higher clears, what is your point? What does this prove regarding addons?