Need advice: static imploding because of cheater.

[Mosha]

Yet YoshiP has said that all encounters can be beaten without any third party programs, the game and all raids etc are exhaustively tested. I think i know which to listen to.

are you saying he is wrong?

ah yes, the dev team said that, the same dev team that has access to all kinds of data the player won't. The fact, p8s was overtuned and TOP had some quite glaring bugs really makes me go hmmmmmmmmm on that statement.

[Aravell]

The fact, p8s was overtuned and TOP had some quite glaring bugs really makes me go hmmmmmmmmm on that statement.

Except p8s was never overtuned, it was job balance that was atrocious. It's just that nerfing boss HP by a few % is much faster and easier than rebalancing the tank role, the caster role and the physical ranged role. The multitude of bugs in TOP are inexcusable though.

[Mosha]

Except p8s was never overtuned, it was job balance that was atrocious. It's just that nerfing boss HP by a few % is much faster and easier than rebalancing the tank role, the caster role and the physical ranged role. The multitude of bugs in TOP are inexcusable though.

yeah, that's fair led to the same outcome though and still doesn't change the fact people need to take those comments with a grain of salt.

[Rolder50]

Except p8s was never overtuned, it was job balance that was atrocious. It's just that nerfing boss HP by a few % is much faster and easier than rebalancing the tank role, the caster role and the physical ranged role. The multitude of bugs in TOP are inexcusable though.

I wonder how people knew that job balance was atrocious... hmm...

[Saraide]

Yet YoshiP has said that all encounters can be beaten without any third party programs, the game and all raids etc are exhaustively tested. I think i know which to listen to.

Are you saying he is wrong?

Either way, my stance remains. I will stand or fall on my own merits, no triggers, no parsers, no callouts..I will improve as times goes on, you can improve without addons, by practice, listening, learning...whether or not you approve makes me no never mind.

WOW is heavily invested to the point that anyone who plays that game is DEPENDENT on a load of addons .

FF 14 isnt.

The game and all its encounters can be defeated in a Vanilla UI. In that sense, FF 14 is a very good example of "bring the player, not the class".

Yoship is not an infallible god, he can be wrong and in this case he very likely is. Unless he just doesnt consider ACT a forbidden third party tool which at this point is a fairly likely assessment considering what they punished and what they havent. Not every third party tool is cheating either, both are forbidden by the TOS but they're not the same. There's one thing I kinda agree on though: you technically do not need ACT to improve. A functioning brain will tell you that using you cooldowns as often as possible and not standing around doing nothing will improve your damage output. Will you end up at the most damaging rotation? Probably not, for that you (or someone else) will need to use ACT.
Still, you have so far failed to present proof that the people telling others to play better are the exact same people that use cactbot or whatever. As long as you fail to do so but continue your sweeping accussations your posts will be without merit.

[Hoodcat]

Yeah man just crack open that notepad file and math away, no using a calculator now that is a third party tool.... Go throu all that stuff in your head

[Hoodcat]

I'm busy ATM or I would myself, I seem to remember that file not even being readable unless you have a program to transcribe it. I could be mistaken thou it has been a very long time, guess square is gana provide us with it or do I need a non endorsed program they do not provide? You know since the file itself id home grown

[Mosha]

I'm busy ATM or I would myself, I seem to remember that file not even being readable unless you have a program to transcribe it. I could be mistaken thou it has been a very long time, guess square is gana provide us with it or do I need a non endorsed program they do not provide? You know since the file itself id home grown

You could just copy and paste it from the chat log. it was more of a theoretical example than a practical one.

[Hoodcat]

You could just copy and paste it from the chat log. it was more of a theoretical example than a practical one.

How junked up that copy paste would be with 8 player +boss + environmental chat etc. I was more lol'n how a transcriber tool that does all that in an instant was bad vrs 40 hours sifting throu one encounter for one that will have numerous errors in it, that technically he couldn't use anything but his head cuz pen and paper and calculator are 3rd party tools.

That file was made to be transcribed by software

Also, all those twitch streamers that go back after a wipe to see what they did wrong.... People gana report them for using nividia playback or stored recordings on twitch to learn/prog?

I remember them on twitch discussing numerical aoe dmg ect ect pulled from fflogs live feeds. So where is this line? Better go report them

[Mosha]

How junked up that copy paste would be with 8 player +boss + environmental chat etc. I was more lol'n how a transcriber tool that does all that in an instant was bad vrs 40 hours sifting throu one encounter for one that will have numerous errors in it, that technically he couldn't use anything but his head cuz pen and paper and calculator are 3rd party tools.

You could just copy it out of the battle log every pull and build an algorithm to sort the data before it's put into a spreadsheet and that's how you can make a parser that doesn't interact with the game. Im not saying its practical but its doable.