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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Threads like this for example?

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ds-to-increase.

    So, to put this as politely as I can, dont tell ME to "git gud" when in THIS THREAD it has been admitted that a LARGE percentage of players in "harder content" cant beat savage or ex or ultimate without a boatload of addons.

    The utter hypocrisy is ...to be frank, sickening.
    You continuing to lie is sickening yet here we are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Threads like this for example?

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ds-to-increase.

    So, to put this as politely as I can, dont tell ME to "git gud" when in THIS THREAD it has been admitted that a LARGE percentage of players in "harder content" cant beat savage or ex or ultimate without a boatload of addons.

    The utter hypocrisy is ...to be frank, sickening.
    Did DixieBellOCE admit to cheating in high-end content?
    Not wanting to publicly hang all cheaters like some people do is not an admission of cheating, nor does it means that cheating is supported.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    Did DixieBellOCE admit to cheating in high-end content? Not wanting to hang all cheaters like some people do is not an admission of cheating.
    Tell ya what Kazhar: I hope that they DO make it official. I hope they DO have a world first race with supervised computers and no addons allowed.

    Then we will see who really is the best at the game.

    Did DixieBellOCE admit to cheating in high-end content?
    Never said she did. Never said that at all. What I did and will continue to say is that no one who does high end content with addons is in any position to tell anyone else to "be better at the game". Thats my point.
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 02-18-2023 at 04:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Threads like this for example?

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ds-to-increase.

    So, to put this as politely as I can, dont tell ME to "git gud" when in THIS THREAD it has been admitted that a LARGE percentage of players in "harder content" cant beat savage or ex or ultimate without a boatload of addons.

    The utter hypocrisy is ...to be frank, sickening.
    Have they proven it, or have they simply stated it makes it convenient? Also, define "boatload". What sort of add-ons are you considering are required for people to clear? ACT, perhaps, that's the obvious one, which in turn leads to Cactbot. Some people rely on Alexander to reduce ping-related problems. Maybe shaders to help discern markers?

    Though I doubt anything those do (with MAYBE the exception of Cactbot) implies they couldn't clear that content otherwise.
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    If I was on a team where leader didn't do anything about a cheater, I would leave it and find a better team that doesn't need to cheat to win. I dealt with cheaters for years on Aion when played it. I don't need to remember those bad days that had to deal with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    If I was on a team where leader didn't do anything about a cheater, I would leave it and find a better team that doesn't need to cheat to win. I dealt with cheaters for years on Aion when played it. I don't need to remember those bad days that had to deal with them.
    And news flash, a few people that you do PF with or in your static probably use third party tools and you have no idea. "I dont do it" with source : "trust me bro", doesnt mean anything, why ? Because there is no way for you or even SE to know who is using them, except if they scream it on all roofs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    And news flash, a few people that you do PF with or in your static probably use third party tools and you have no idea. "I dont do it" with source : "trust me bro", doesnt mean anything, why ? Because there is no way for you or even SE to know who is using them, except if they scream it on all roofs.
    Apples and oranges.

    The cheater outed themselves via a stream. It is irrelevant if 1 or a million people view it. Once the player has broadcast themselves cheating, and OP became aware of it, they had to decide to become complicit or to remove and report a cheater.

    This is less comparable to randos in PF who may or may not cheat and more like the idiot putting themselves on social media licking hamburger buns or spitting in the Salad Bar.

    There is/was nothing stopping the remaining 6 from seeking out the cheater and reforming the group complicit in cheating.

    SE is basically operating on Fight Club rules, and the idiot OP kicked broke rule 1.
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    Isn't ant cheat software a no no in Japan? I thought I read that somewhere but could be mistaken.
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    Also I'm pretty sure square can detect most of not all mods already, mods from what I have seen alter files changeing sizes and altering files. You know to remove a mod you run the patcher right? Where hacks like rotation/ bots etc are injects.

    I think they know more than is given credit for.

    I wouldn't poke the bear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoodcat View Post
    Also I'm pretty sure square can detect most of not all mods already, mods from what I have seen alter files changeing sizes and altering files. You know to remove a mod you run the patcher right? Where hacks like rotation/ bots etc are injects.

    I think they know more than is given credit for.

    I wouldn't poke the bear
    It's the same as with bots, the currently available addons would be insanely easy to detect. That would not stay this way if they really did check. Assuming of course the game wouldnt just break on its own under the weight of anti cheat added. The assumption that SE would even be able to make one that doesnt make the game hilariously unfunctional isnt one based on facts.
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