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    Player Sesera's Avatar
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    Komi Shouko
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 62
    I cleared a duty after watching a guide can anyone tell me how my clear is suddenly more "legit" than someone who used a zoomhack just because I didn't download any plugin?
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    Pixieh's Avatar
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    Pixie Styx
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    Odin
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    I cleared a duty after watching a guide can anyone tell me how my clear is suddenly more "legit" than someone who used a zoomhack just because I didn't download any plugin?
    You didn't break the TOS.

    adjective: legit

    1.
    conforming to the rules; legal.
    "is this car legit?"
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    Last edited by Pixieh; 02-17-2023 at 06:35 AM.

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    Kansene's Avatar
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    Rajeko Thunderbright
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    Lich
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    Scholar Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    I cleared a duty after watching a guide can anyone tell me how my clear is suddenly more "legit" than someone who used a zoomhack just because I didn't download any plugin?
    One of them gives you instructions outside the game to remember.

    The other modifies your actual game and provides real-time assistance that directly affects your gameplay.

    If we're going to go with the ever popular use of metaphors, the former is an instruction manual to a lego kit. The latter is someone fetching the correct pieces for you and helping you assemble the kit. The kit you agreed to assemble unassisted.

    To further drive home the point:
    Clearing the duty after watching a guide means you researched the duty and prepared to face what the game throws at you. You operated within the terms set by the dev team and did nothing wrong.
    PvE in FFXIV is a memory game, and repetition and memorization is the intended learning method.

    Clearing a duty using addons means that rather than face what the game throws at you, you make a conscious decision to avoid the challenge you are faced with, and use illegitimate tools to invalidate and bastardize it. You decided to skip parts of it and create an easy-mode version. After literally promising not to do it. That is what you agree to when you accept the terms of service.
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    Last edited by Kansene; 02-17-2023 at 07:19 AM.

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    Hoodcat's Avatar
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    Carmina Gadelica
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Should have just asked him to stop continuing to use if you cared so much. Ruining friendship over a thing that’s been in the game for almost 10 years is silly when you say it out loud . All is far left or far right people do not matter and can preach all they want. Is your group, was it worth just not asking him to stop, regardless if he lies to you or not ? =p
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    Player SeiyaSoiya's Avatar
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    Hariette Reina-cuento
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    Marilith
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoodcat View Post
    Should have just asked him to stop continuing to use if you cared so much. Ruining friendship over a thing that’s been in the game for almost 10 years is silly when you say it out loud . All is far left or far right people do not matter and can preach all they want. Is your group, was it worth just not asking him to stop, regardless if he lies to you or not ? =p
    oh okay so when UNNAMED_ was caught cheating we should have just told them to stop instead of instantly banning them and forcing them to delete their characters
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    Hoodcat's Avatar
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    Carmina Gadelica
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    oh okay so when UNNAMED_ was caught cheating we should have just told them to stop instead of instantly banning them and forcing them to delete their characters
    Yeah, he’s a member or is he just some random and not your friend. Are you not building a relationship with him with hours put into the game? How’s finding a rep going buddy?

    Zoom cheats been here since dive bombs on Twintania, for the people that couldnt take 2 steps left and right it’s not going anywhere

    Games still in beta.
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    Saraide's Avatar
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    oh okay so when UNNAMED_ was caught cheating we should have just told them to stop instead of instantly banning them and forcing them to delete their characters
    Yea I think so.
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    Victor Spoils
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    Coeurl
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    he kept to himself and never talked about it.
    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    streamed and showed himself using a zoomhack
    ??????????
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    Pixie Styx
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    Odin
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VictorSpoils View Post
    ??????????
    The cheater probably kept it to themself as they progressed until one day they had the mindblowingly good idea to stream and either didn't take into account that it would expose them or just didn't care.

    If that's not the case, I'll join you; ???????.
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    Last edited by Pixieh; 02-17-2023 at 07:16 AM.

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    Player
    Hoodcat's Avatar
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    Carmina Gadelica
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Tbh that NVIDIA record thing has become popular too
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