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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    This and other delusions from people who have zero clue what third party tools can and cannot do.

    And while we are on the topic, yes, placing markers in combat did indeed help clear an ultimate. It was done manually, though.
    What would anyone do without the opinions on savage and ultimate content from people never touching savage or ultimate content? I for one cant live without it.
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    Last edited by Saraide; 02-17-2023 at 03:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    It does affect others, in as much negative as positive. I'm pretty sure third party tools contributed to you being able to see how much time buffs/debuffs people have left in your party window.

    I'm not exactly for them, but the reason they are so widespread is because the category third party tools is too general a description to imply a completely negative or a positive thing. I've seen some texture packs for FFXI, a 20 year old game, that if I were to play the game today I would consider almost essential being in a 4k monitor. And those things likely contribute to the life of XI, which wouldn't be online today if it were no longer making a profit for SE.



    Why is it that whenever someone cheats in XIV, people always bring out the "but what about texture mods"



    I'm talking about cheating. Literal cheating. Qol stuff is not cheating. Paisley Park was cheating.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 02-17-2023 at 03:20 AM.

  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    This and other delusions from people who have zero clue what third party tools can and cannot do.

    And while we are on the topic, yes, placing markers in combat did indeed help clear an ultimate. It was done manually, though.

    Paisley Park? The mod that automatically moved markers in TEA? That one is why we have no movable markers in combat.
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    What would anyone do without the opinions on savage and ultimate content frin people never touching savage or ultimate content? I for one cant live without it.



    Wow, it's almost like I've been raiding in XIV since 2013. Unlike some people I post with my actual character, my achievements are public, and I don't hide my logs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Why is 8t that whenever someone cheats in XIV, people always bring out the "but what about texture mods"



    I'm talking about cheating. Literal cheating. Qol stuff is not cheating. Paisley Park was cheating.
    Because you weren't talking about cheating, you were talking about third party tools and an effect they had on others. here is the quote:

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    People keep sayi g it doesn't effect others. I'm pretty sure the use of third party tools in ultimate directly contributed to me not being able to place or remove markers in combat now.
    If you had said cheating to gain an advantage in fights, I wouldn't have said what I did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Because you weren't talking about cheating, you were talking about third party tools and an effect they had on others. here is the quote:



    If you had said cheating to gain an advantage in fights, I wouldn't have said what I did.

    I thought it was public knowledge the use of cheating (through a 3rd party tool) is what caused the removal of the ability of in combat marker placement. I guess I was wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Weird. I am the business owner of a multimillion dollar small business that relies on social skills. I’ve been married for 16 years and am active in my local community.

    But of course a cheater sympathizer would type something like this.
    The cringey I’m successful irl claim. Just when I thought I couldn’t think less of you, you prove me wrong. Guess you finally got me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    The exact same logic applies to raids.
    No that is incorrect, SE has even said so. Players are circumventing difficulty by using mods, meaning if the design teams wants to make truly difficult content they would need to account for players having mods making the game easier. They obviously dont want to do this as it would force players who dont use mods to get them to complete content. This is why WoW is the way it is. They allowed mods, people got used to playing with them, and now to make challenging content they have to consider them or the content they create will be too easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Wow, it's almost like I've been raiding in XIV since 2013. Unlike some people I post with my actual character, my achievements are public, and I don't hide my logs.
    I wasnt thinking about you nor the OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I thought it was public knowledge the use of cheating (through a 3rd party tool) is what caused the removal of the ability of in combat marker placement. I guess I was wrong.
    I seem to recall a marker placement macro series that completely bypassed arena restrictions heavily contributing to that change as well. Markers started outside, then were moved inside mid-combat at a certain point. Or was it the other way around? Been a while.
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