Need advice: static imploding because of cheater.

[Ath192]

Probably still better than you even without a camera hack.

Yeah this is complete misinformation here. World proggers aren't bad raiders who are good because they cheat. These people are extremely strong raiders that cheat to enhance their performance even further. Lots of athletes dope to improve their performance in competitions. That doesn't mean that if they stopped doping they couldn't run circles around you anyways.

It is cheating though, no doubt, and for world race purposes, it should definitely not be tolerate imo. Because that is a competition.

[NekoMataMata]

I think you could have pulled him to the side and asked him cease and to delete that vod. A simple conversation can work miracles. Now other people will probably be wary to raid with you as you have now been labeled a snitch.

Or at the very least, label them problematic and incapable of solving issues without creating drama. Seriously, how awkward can you get? No one wants someone like that on their team, much less at the leader of their static.

The whole discussion around 3pp here is just a symptom of the greater issue: OP's inability to lead and solve issues as leader of a group without creating a mess.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Or at the very least, label them problematic and incapable of solving issues without creating drama. Seriously, how awkward can you get? No one wants someone like that on their team, much less at the leader of their static.

The whole discussion around 3pp here is just a symptom of the greater issue: OP's inability to lead and solve issues as leader of a group without creating a mess.

lol. Removing a streaming cheater is something a leader should do and solved the issue. A group discussion shouldn’t change that decision. Such weird takes I’m this thread. I wonder if people act this dense just to be contrarian or argue.

Being a leader is doing the right thing. Even when it’s inconvenient. Sounds like the other players just wanted easy clears with a cheater.

[NekoMataMata]

lol. Removing a streaming cheater is something a leader should do and solved the issue. A group discussion shouldn’t change that decision. Such weird takes I’m this thread. I wonder if people act this dense just to be contrarian or argue.

Being a leader is doing the right thing. Even when it’s inconvenient. Sounds like the other players just wanted easy clears with a cheater.

How to tell that someone has no life and no social skills, all right here in one convenient post.

[ZephyrMenodora]

How to tell that someone has no life and no social skills, all right here in one convenient post.

Weird. I am the business owner of a multimillion dollar small business that relies on social skills. I’ve been married for 16 years and am active in my local community.

But of course a cheater sympathizer would type something like this.

[Saraide]

I say this every thread about static related drama: your static, your rules. This applies to OP aswell. If you want to have a static not using any third party tools at all, you are perfectly allowed to do so. But no one has to stay in your static either, everyone is free to leave for whatever reason. You cant force people to stay. If this is how you conduct yourself as leader then you'll just lose some people. It's as simple as that. The moral grandstanding and outrage isnt going to achieve anything.

[NanaWiloh]

Let the World first incident serve as a example. If a cheater is in your group, it does not matter to SE if you know about the cheating or not. You are guilty by association and you will pay for it alongside said cheater. That is all that needs to be said or understood. From the responses in this thread seems some players are fine paying the price for others.

[Azuri]

Man's actually whipped out Navy Seals copypasta...

[Rilifane]

Man's actually whipped out Navy Seals copypasta...

I had to google it and now I can't unsee it.
The things I learn on the internet...

[ZephyrMenodora]

Man's actually whipped out Navy Seals copypasta...

All the more triggering to people who need to resort to personal attacks instead of addressing an actual argument when it’s true.