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    Eureka is totally unplayable now

    There are more than 2/3 people are bots in Eureka now.
    They aren't only breaking economy of this game, but also make people need take 15 minutes to trigger a NM and take another 15 minutes to beat them.

    And what is even worse is the handling of SEs
    Even if you spend 20 minutes writing down all the bots IDs and report.
    Those bots are still alive weeks later.
    They will never be banned because SE don't care at all.

    If the officials don't think Eureka is worth any of your work.
    PLEASE JUST DELETE EUREKA!


    Edited:
    For those one who can't image how does these bots impact NM difficulty.

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    Last edited by Greysuki; 02-17-2023 at 03:53 PM. Reason: add image

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    Been doing Eureka for the last couple days. Haven't had any problems whatsoever. I've run into some bots, but for the most part the place is way less vile than it used to be. People remain active, and most of them are quite courteous. You've got your occasional douche that insists on pulling everything instantly, but that is to be expected. We let those people die. >_>

    Oh, and Pagos can return to whatever burning dumpster hell dimension it came from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    Been doing Eureka for the last couple days. Haven't had any problems whatsoever. I've run into some bots, but for the most part the place is way less vile than it used to be. People remain active, and most of them are quite courteous. You've got your occasional douche that insists on pulling everything instantly, but that is to be expected. We let those people die. >_>

    Oh, and Pagos can return to whatever burning dumpster hell dimension it came from.
    Point is you shouldn't have to deal with them at all.

    Bots have plagued Eureka for years now and CBU3 has done little to curb them which in turn encourages them more.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greysuki View Post
    Eureka is totally unplayable now
    Maybe you're just on a dead/bot-infested DC but Eureka on Aether is perfectly playable. Try DC hopping over here and seeing if it's any better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greysuki View Post
    PLEASE JUST DELETE EUREKA!
    Why? I fail to see why bots would be a reason to delete an entire gamemode.
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    Last edited by AwesomeJr44; 02-16-2023 at 03:47 PM.

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    Remove the gil from those bunny chests.

    It still wouldn’t do anything to the lockbox botters though.

    Oh and.. if that really happens gotta say goodbye to one of the easiest, braindead money maker :c
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Remove the gil from those bunny chests.

    It still wouldn’t do anything to the lockbox botters though.

    Oh and.. if that really happens gotta say goodbye to one of the easiest, braindead money maker :c
    Yep, it's a lot more difficult to do than it looks like. Removing a major source of easy currency is likely to result in turning off new and returning players (although it's debated just how much so the bunny chests actually are in the grand scheme).

    But the situation to be wary of is this:

    Imagine if in order to strangle bots, new players have their income streams heavily curtailed as well. Instead of the fairly breezy situation gil has come to be for veterans, they have to scrimp and save to even hope to afford a house at some point, or maybe even an apartment or endgame raid gear.

    Aetheryte tickets become much more important in this regard, so Hunt Trains swell, and disagreements over the handling of A/S ranks, "snipers/early pullers" etc. flare up still further now that people are actually depending on those tickets not as a convenience but as a major source of effective income.

    MB prices might increase, expecting you'll make a decent penny from current content, as is the case in WoW - to take another danger from that game, greed might easily take over other aspects of the game (for instance, raiders beginning to expect payment-for-services when they help someone - especially a first timer with fewer options - clear, making the endgame atmosphere significantly more mercenary, less helpful, and in general negative).

    This is mitigated, of course, by the fact that the number of things you can ONLY obtain with gil are much more limited in XIV (since in WoW every tier features the obligatory "you must spend tens of thousands of gold on these special vendor-only mats" to doubtlessly - in combination with an economy manipulated through turning off old gold spigots - spur Token movement, while in XIV, most or all of this sort of "special sauce" is acquired through uncapped Tomestones), but still. It's a less trivial matter than you'd think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    I can find farm groups almost any day and almost any time. There's dead time but it's active content, at least in Primal.
    Farm groups, but no levelling groups. It's content gatekept by 40+ hours of solo levelling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Farm groups, but no levelling groups. It's content gatekept by 40+ hours of solo levelling.
    There's leveling groups in Pagos, Pyros and Hydatos, just not usually Anemos.
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    Once I hit ~ 13/14 in Anemos (maybe an hour) there was a nice guy in Aether DC that was working on all weapons so he would collect 14+ players on his team and run through killing things about his level and prepping NMs. Very very good xp. Was out of Anemos in couple hours total. Pagos - get a few levels under your belt then look for groups at your level or just 1-2 above. It helps if you are a healer if they are above your level and tank if you are the highest level. Then Pyros - your only task is to get to 41. At 41 look up reflect farming. I got from 41-47 in about 16 minutes. It definitely felt like cheating but it’s not. Then NM groups from 47-50. Hydatos look for mobs that adapt / mutate as when they do yo get 2-4 x the XP. Some have conditions like weather or time of day. There are resources to figure that out. It’s a toss up here whether it’s faster to group or solo (the right mobs). About 54/55 take any NM you can here. The crystals are much slower so you’ll need more NMs to get your armor and weapons done. It is possible and it is fun. Swap DCs if you join and its a dead group or there are jerks there. One thing about Aether is they are famous for instapulling NMs. I was just at one tonight and the prep group (they are far away - its an unusual one) didnt get to the NM before it was dead. A whole bunch of really terrible people. Anyway, as you get high level if you are having trouble with instapulled NMs before you get there just avoid Aether. It is not always but it can be super terrible.
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