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    Lorewise, is it explained how we can return to those zones? (EW spoilers)

    I think with previous expansions, there are reasonable explanations on how we can return to the previous zones. (Exclude repeatable dungeons or trials).

    I haven't finished 6.1-6.3 yet so maybe it's explained later on, but I'm looking at World Unsundered and Ultima Thule, there's really no good lore explanations on how we can be returning to those places, are there?

    The reason I'm asking is because they spent so much time in ShB to explain how WoL can travel back and forth and how to return to the First to visit those places.

    I guess maybe this is a question more for roleplayers, of course average player probably don't really care so much.

    For Roleplayers, do you visit these 2 EW places, and how do you justify it? Do you just build scenarios that these are memories we are visiting back in time, etc or any creative ideas?
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    It's explained how we re-access these zones in the intro quests for The Stigma Dreamscape and Pandaemonium respectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurina View Post
    It's explained how we re-access these zones in the intro quests for The Stigma Dreamscape and Pandaemonium respectively.
    Got it, so these are unlocked after 6.3 is completed correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hycinthus View Post
    Got it, so these are unlocked after 6.3 is completed correct?
    Stigma Dreamscape is 6.0, and Pandaemonium is 6.01. Both are basically launch content.
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    Elpis' explanation amounts to 'yeah that portal's still open'; it's not much of an explanation, but also doesn't need to be. Ultima Thule's is a bit more involved.

    Since you asked roleplayers, though... I don't think I know a single person who has decided to set a scene in either of those places, and I know quite a lot of them as an RP venue owner. Granted I don't make a habit of asking, but most people's character stories just don't really stretch out that far, people generally prefer more... well, terrestrial plotlines. I've seen one person whose description says they're playing an Omicron, but I haven't talked to them enough to find out what their angle is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    Elpis' explanation amounts to 'yeah that portal's still open'; it's not much of an explanation, but also doesn't need to be. Ultima Thule's is a bit more involved.

    Since you asked roleplayers, though... I don't think I know a single person who has decided to set a scene in either of those places, and I know quite a lot of them as an RP venue owner. Granted I don't make a habit of asking, but most people's character stories just don't really stretch out that far, people generally prefer more... well, terrestrial plotlines. I've seen one person whose description says they're playing an Omicron, but I haven't talked to them enough to find out what their angle is.
    Got it, no worries, I knew it was reaching, but anyway it's clear now I'll just complete the remaining MSQs first then.
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    Story wise, I don't think there is an expectation that we can return to Elpis. For gameplay purposes we have to be able to go back there whenever we like, but it seems pretty clear that the intent was for it to be a one-time trip, although you were able to reawaken the portal with the Pandæmonium crystal.

    If you really needed to explain your ability to teleport back there at will, you could probably say that aetherytes operate across spacetime and not just physical space. If you attuned to that aetheryte 12,000 years objectively earlier than all the other aetherytes you've attuned to, then that is when-and-where it will take you when you teleport to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    Elpis' explanation amounts to 'yeah that portal's still open'; it's not much of an explanation, but also doesn't need to be. Ultima Thule's is a bit more involved.

    Since you asked roleplayers, though... I don't think I know a single person who has decided to set a scene in either of those places, and I know quite a lot of them as an RP venue owner. Granted I don't make a habit of asking, but most people's character stories just don't really stretch out that far, people generally prefer more... well, terrestrial plotlines. I've seen one person whose description says they're playing an Omicron, but I haven't talked to them enough to find out what their angle is.
    I've seen some people roleplaying Ancients in Elpis. And personally, I think it would be really in the spirit of the zone to turn the Last Dregs into a roleplay space, though I don't think there's really an interest in doing that sort of thing in public nowadays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurina View Post
    I've seen some people roleplaying Ancients in Elpis. And personally, I think it would be really in the spirit of the zone to turn the Last Dregs into a roleplay space, though I don't think there's really an interest in doing that sort of thing in public nowadays.
    I only know Ancient RPers exist by hearsay, really; I've never met one, it seems more popular among fanfic writers. But in that case they basically take the opposite direction towards not caring about justification to access Elpis; they don't need to explain how they time-travelled, because they're supposed to be there.
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    At one point you can ask how the ship can be in both places at once.

    The guy looks at YOU and says, "don't think about it".
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