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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurina View Post
    Midi-chlorians
    To be fair, at least the Midi-chlorians have the angle of, "Showcasing that the contemporary Jedi Order had lost its way with what was truly important."

    Neither in the Prequel nor original trilogy do the M-counts actually matter in the most important bits. In the prequels, Obi-wan defeats Anakin by knowing Anakin intimately as a person and playing against his faults. In the OT, Luke doesn't defeat Vader and the Emperor because he's simply more powerful than them. He defeats them by committing to his training and personal belief and his love for his father.

    By comparison, Dynamis is now interlocked with gameplay as well as the narrative, so it's always going to directly impact everything. At scriptwriter's discretion. Especially since almost all of the beings in the current events of the setting do not have the information that it makes up the majority of the energy in the universe as stated by Hermes (who coulda been wrong, because I mean, real world reference aside, how has he observed the entirety of the universe and all its inherent energy?). Omega does, of course, but does Omega have the capacity to directly manipulate it forever and for always? Or is it dependent on his platform? It shouldn't be, he should just be able to roid out his OMG toy body with sheer emotion. It's all malarkey.
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    "I thought that my invincible power would hold the world captive, leaving me in a freedom undisturbed. Thus night and day I worked at the chain with huge fires and cruel hard strokes. When at last the work was done and the links were complete and unbreakable, I found that it held me in its grip." - Rabindranath Tagore

  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    a more well defined entity that follows fixed 'rules' to a more nebulous one based off of emotions and spiritualism.
    It's not based off of spiritualism in its base form. Our manipulation of it currently is, though. Lurina's point stands.
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    "I thought that my invincible power would hold the world captive, leaving me in a freedom undisturbed. Thus night and day I worked at the chain with huge fires and cruel hard strokes. When at last the work was done and the links were complete and unbreakable, I found that it held me in its grip." - Rabindranath Tagore

  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    No one taught us how to manipulate it.
    Actually, somebody did in a sense...Fray, in the level 30-50 DRK questline. Which by how the devs like to make every questline canon, means that's the canon answer of how we learned how to manipulate it. And I know, that sounds really weird considering Fray is really just the WoL's self-esteem given physical form. But considering how Sundered members of the Convocation still possess some incredibly powerful forms of magic despite being Sundered (see Gaia for examples), it's not a stretch to think that we were able teach it to ourselves. It wouldn't surprise me if Azem was able to manipulate Dynamis on some level seeing as how they were seemingly (or at least other Ancients give the impression) more in tune with their emotions than most Ancients.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    The important thing to remember about every single ultimate raid:

    They are in-universe fiction written by a bard. I don't know what kind of education the Wandering Minstrel has, but I'm guessing he ain't a scientist or historian. It was why we couldn't read much of anything into DSR's alt-universe, and it's probably why TOP makes relatively little sense from a 'scientific' perspective; it's not supposed to. It'd be like complaining that Gurren Lagann doesn't adhere to real-world physics.
    I've realized people might've thought I was just being snarky here, and I'm sorry if people did. But I earnestly think this is the most interesting part of the Ultimates, including TOP. For one big reason:

    We actually don't see a whole lot of in-universe fiction, probably because it's very hard to make interesting. We know of in-universe fiction, but very rarely with more than a couple sentences of actual text, and I think the only time we've seen an actual performance was in SAM's level 80 quest, which was a dramatic spoken-word piece. We've got enough to extrapolate from, particularly around the Far East (the fact a kabuki theater even exists is very helpful), but we don't know much.

    I think the Ultimates give us something very important in that sector: I think they're what escapist fantasy action looks like in a universe that's ALREADY escapist fantasy action. This is Eorzea's equivalent of an Avengers movie.
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    To me it makes sense that the Omnicrons and thus Omega wouldn't know or if they did not use Dynamis. As it's not an efficient tool. They started out as a very weak organic race that sought out ways to make them stronger than their opponents. This led them to slowly turning into what we see in Ultima Thule. Where we get Sir who when asked if they have an idea for a weed killer tells the Killian to just burn the entire crop area the weeds are in. Why? Because it's the most efficient way to get rid of the weeds. It's why that by the time they came across the Dragon Star they had come up with the plan of total destruction of a planet's natural resources. All because it's the fastest and most efficient way to demoralize your enemy. So even if Dynamis can help you be stronger needing to rely on an energy source that is so far only usable via emotions isn't going to be very effective. That and emotions by the time the Omnicrons became the machines we know them as now they dumped that part of them.

    Dynamis might feel like midi-chlorians and yet the game even if there wasn't a name for it at the time or the devs even having a solid idea about it has been hinted at for some time. We have been asked on many an occasion by our foes how are we able to be so powerful? To the point where Omega got so mad at us messing up their math calculations that they slapped us into a goal and started to crush us inside said goal in hopes that we'd somehow just show him and the others the hidden power we tend to tap into. Only for Midgardsormr to bust in and free us while basically saying "how about we don't go and do that and just agree that they're capable of doing so? Cause it's not time for that." before taking a bow and telling us he's going for his 200 year nap. Sure it's a retroactive retcon of the lore as now we can point and say oh look they've hinted at this for awhile.
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    Last edited by SannaR; 02-13-2023 at 11:35 PM.

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    Is there a proper showcase of the cutscenes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    Is there a proper showcase of the cutscenes?
    Which cutscenes?
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    I think he means the cutscenes from TOP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I think he means the cutscenes from TOP.
    Oh well I don't think someone has done just clips of the things Omega says throughout the fight and the one cutscene going into the final phase or after you clear the fight. I do know the post fight can be seen via the unending journal but only by those who've cleared the fight. The other information comes the description of the buffs/debuffs you gain during the fight. If they're asking about what is said during the regular Omega raids then I think it is either between O9 & O10 or between O10 & O11.
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    I'm hoping for the big transition bit, and the end of fight bit, but I seem to be searching the wrong things as it just isn't turning up.
    The unlock one is not too hard to find, and a bit thought provoking.
    Until somebody does get around to releasing the cutscenes, I'll just have to glean what I can from various clear vids and attempt vids.
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