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    Wish one of the new bosses in the current alliance raid had its own theme (spoilers)

    Speaking of Halone specifically, I was sad she didn't get her own theme since she was so powerful and cool (literally) lol.

    Giving Halone like a Heavensward-like theme would be really cool for her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    Speaking of Halone specifically, I was sad she didn't get her own theme since she was so powerful and cool (literally) lol.

    Giving Halone like a Heavensward-like theme would be really cool for her.
    The theme used for the first three bosses fits the first 2 fights (Nophica, Althyk, and Nymeia) well enough, but it really doesn't suit Halone imo.
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    Honestly yeah.
    I really like the Raid Theme, but its disappointing that Halone didnt get her own theme
    And with how they Promoted the Raid, Im shocked she wasnt the Final Boss..
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    Menphina being the final boss didn't make sense to me either.

    Halone has a much greater impact in the game. She's worshipped by a city-state, feared and revered by so many. Meanwhile, Menphina is mentioned here and there, but we never see a major worship of her.

    I guess the dev team wanted to do other songs than "Guide us O Mighty Fury" again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Menphina being the final boss didn't make sense to me either.

    Halone has a much greater impact in the game. She's worshipped by a city-state, feared and revered by so many. Meanwhile, Menphina is mentioned here and there, but we never see a major worship of her.

    I guess the dev team wanted to do other songs than "Guide us O Mighty Fury" again...
    If you want the real reason, it's because each of the Twelve is assigned to either an Astral Moon or an Umbral Moon of their element.

    Byregot is the Astral moon of Lightning
    Rhalgar is the Umbral moon of Lightning
    Azeyma is the Astral moon of Fire
    Nald'Thal is the Umbral moon of Fire
    Nophica is the Astral moon of earth
    Althyk is the Umbral moon of earth
    Halone is that Astral moon of Ice
    Menphina is the Umbral moon of ice

    You can see the trend that the bosses are fought in Astral -> Umbral order within their respective elements, meaning Menphina will always be after Halone. The only outlier to this rule is Nymeia who joins Althyk, but that likely has more to do with the fact that Nymeia & Althyk are siblings and the devs thought it'd be a fun tag team fight and wanted to make room in the next raid series for a potential fight with the unnamed god. If they had switched the elements for Euphrosyne around around, then Althyk & Nymeia would have been the final boss instead following their Astral <-> Umbral order.

    Following this trend, we will know we'll fight Lymlaen before we fight Oschon in the next raid.
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    Last edited by Daeriion_Aeradiir; 02-14-2023 at 12:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
    If you want the real reason, it's because each of the Twelve is assigned to either an Astral Moon or an Umbral Moon of their element.

    Byregot is the Astral moon of Lightning
    Rhalgar is the Umbral moon of Lightning
    Azeyma is the Astral moon of Fire
    Nald'Thal is the Umbral moon of Fire
    Nophica is the Astral moon of earth
    Althyk is the Umbral moon of earth
    Halone is that Astral moon of Ice
    Menphina is the Umbral moon of ice

    You can see the trend that the bosses are fought in Astral -> Umbral order within their respective elements, meaning Menphina will always be after Halone. The only outlier to this rule is Nymeia who joins Althyk, but that likely has more to do with the fact that Nymeia & Althyk are siblings and the devs thought it'd be a fun tag team fight and wanted to make room in the next raid series for a potential fight with the unnamed god. If they had switched the elements for Euphrosyne around around, then Althyk & Nymeia would have been the final boss instead following their Astral <-> Umbral order.

    Following this trend, we will know we'll fight Lymlaen before we fight Oschon in the next raid.

    There is a unnamed god? Maybe I forgot that detail somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    There is a unnamed god? Maybe I forgot that detail somewhere.
    From the inscription in the Omphalos, revealed in the quests after you clear Euphrosyne and visit the monuments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    From the inscription in the Omphalos, revealed in the quests after you clear Euphrosyne and visit the monuments.
    Oh that explains it, I haven't done the after-alliance quests yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    From the inscription in the Omphalos, revealed in the quests after you clear Euphrosyne and visit the monuments.
    Which leaves us questioning who the last boss actually is. They could throw a curve ball shocker at us by it turning out to be Louisuix (with him turning out to have been the Sundered version of their creator), or just randomly make up a person on the spot to be the one we fight. Or maybe even having us fight their "caretaker." Middy 3.0 anybody?
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    But it does make sense in the greater scope of the expansion in general - what SE have been consistantly using to advertise EW - the moon (it's even on the banner at the top of this forum!), and so featuring Menphina front and centre as the goddess of the moon in the Twelve only fits that.

    Halone on the other hand... already featured heavily back in HW, so she was always going to pushed to side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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