Quote Originally Posted by Ggwppino View Post
For a matter of numbers. X want to play the drg. All and x enjoy playing the drg. Y people play the drg one way, and Z people another. Y people enjoy playing the drg in a relaxed way, while Z people enjoy continuing to improve and try to get to use the drg in the most perfect way possible. they are 2 different ways of having fun but everyone has fun.
I changed class because the argument does not apply to smn, but in general.
So your argument is an unknown people want to play a simple way, an unknown people like to play a complex way, the simple way can't clear content so isn't viable, so only the unknown people (Z, I guess?) get to have fun and do anything meaningful in the game.

And without knowing what X, Y, or Z are...you think that's preferable? What if Z is 500 people while Y is 500,000? And those 500,000 aren't able to do any content above MSQ because they don't play the Job at any high level?

Maybe you mean Y and Z are both able to clear content...but in that case, you've run into the BLM vs SMN case where BLM is clearly able to clear content, but even you swap away from it. CLEARLY Z is either not a big number or Z wants to be Y while acting like they are not.

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There are so many unknowns in there...

Here's the thing, at the end of the day, we don't all get exactly what we want. I love GNB's aesthetic, but I dislike its mechanics. So I have a choice: Either play the Job I like the idea of but hate the mechanics the whole time, or play a different Job I may like the aesthetics of less but that I enjoy mechanically. I kinda hate WAR's aesthetic. Never been a fan of berserker type stuff. But if I'm doing some Extreme or something the first time as a Tank, I'm generally going to do it on WAR, because I enjoy the playstyle and it's good for learning encounters, and I've gotten to where I just dropped GNB because it was too much work and I wasn't enjoying playing it. (Picking up PLD now since it's not an absolute bore to play like it used to be, so that's nice. Reminds me a bit of when I first started it in ARR and had fun with it then, too.)

UNLESS the optimization produces ZERO additional damage, then there aren't cases of "most perfect way possible" and "relaxed way" existing side by side. One or the other is abandoned. Either the super perfect way is so pointless no one does it, or the relaxed way isn't viable. If they're both viable, people stop playing the super perfect way, just as players abandon BLM for SMN if SMN is viable.

I went from RDM in ShB to SMN in EW because they made RDM more technical and annoying and SMN became better and more enjoyable. /shrug