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    The fact that you're making sweeping generalizations about the entire raiding community doesn't tell me that you're willing to listen to anything.
    Not making any at all, its a simple fact. If you cant win without cheating, you arent as skilled as you claim to be, therefore not in a position to lecture anyone else.

    You also didn't even adress anything I said in my post, which of the content you listed is between MSQ and EX difficulty
    You have a range to deal with, which isnt the topic here either.

    Which is nonsense because the idea that anyone who complains about difficulty also cheats is a complete strawman in the first place.
    If they are a better player..why do they have to cheat to win?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Not making any at all, its a simple fact. If you cant win without cheating, you arent as skilled as you claim to be, therefore not in a position to lecture anyone else.



    You have a range to deal with, which isnt the topic here either.



    If they are a better player..why do they have to cheat to win?
    Funny thing to say when it's all the casuals who use the ERP mods. If you liked RP so much, why cant you do it without mods?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Funny thing to say when it's all the casuals who use the ERP mods. If you liked RP so much, why cant you do it without mods?

    Half the ultimate afkers in Limsa on jenova have a certain moon plug in mentioned in their bios.



    So either erpers are buying ultimate clears or the raiders have started erping
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Funny thing to say when it's all the casuals who use the ERP mods. If you liked RP so much, why cant you do it without mods?
    Please dont be disingenuous. Thats plainly a ridiculous take.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Please dont be disingenuous. Thats plainly a ridiculous take.
    Why is it ridiculous, its a simple fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Why is it ridiculous, its a simple fact.
    I dont see a worlds first RP event..do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    I dont see a worlds first RP event..do you?
    So you're okay with all the casuals using ERP mods?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Not making any at all, its a simple fact. If you cant win without cheating, you arent as skilled as you claim to be, therefore not in a position to lecture anyone else.
    Lecture whom? I believe when people say "I wish MSQ was harder", the goal is to increase their own enjoyment of the game, not to lecture others. Many people in this thread have made posts in that direction.
    It's not all about casual vs raiders.

    You have a range to deal with, which isnt the topic here either.
    IMO this is very much the topic because this could be the true solution to many problems listed in this thread.
    Basically I think casual players should have their easy MSQ, some people just aren't interested in difficult content, or just aren't interested in the gameplay aspect of FFXIV and with the MSQ gating everything including content such as Island Sanctuary or DoH/DoL activities, it shouldn't be a wall for them.
    But sometimes I wish I could relax and use my max level jobs on content less boring than most of what roulette content offers. Expert Dungeons like Smileton were already so ridiculously easy on release day I'm not even sure anyone ever wiped to it. I think Bozja with its slightly increased difficulty was a good compromise.
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    Last edited by Kazhar; 02-13-2023 at 10:59 AM.