The difficulty of Normal Content in this game needs to increase.

[VelKallor]

Not the same team.
What does it have to do with the difficulty of casual content by the way?

Simple: we have here a thread commenting on "competence" of players, by people who clamoured for "hard challenging content"..and were then shown to not be able to clear it without a load of TOS forbidden 3rd party programs. Maybe they ought to be looking at their own skill..or lack thereof..if they cant clear that content without addons.

People in glass houses......

Ill be blunt

If they cant or wont clear savage or ex or ultimate without addons, if they cant or wont clear said content on a vanilla UI, then they have no business criticising anyone's skill..especially when others arent using forbidden addons to play the game for them.

[Rolder50]

Not the same team.
What does it have to do with the difficulty of casual content by the way?

Strawman arguments is all they know how to do, sadly.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Strawman arguments is all they know how to do, sadly.

You were the one who brought up how the mods being used couldn't solve mechanics, which is wrong.


I honestly wonder how the "best" WF teams would do if they had to play on consoles lol.

[Kazhar]

Absolutely nothing. But if one team was using it likely others were too. And if harder content is what people want, why do they find shortcuts to make it easier?


Note, I'm not saying no to harder casual content. I've long stated that alliance raids should be locked to the highest ilvl of the patch they released in.

Oh, so yet another disingenuous crap by the usual suspects. I swear this controversy really made everyone stupider.

They cheated to win the World Race, not because the content was too hard for them. I'm pretty sure you didn't need me to tell you that, you just chose the road of bad faith yet again.

Nevermind that multiple teams cleared on stream without the use of any cheats, gotta demonize the entire raid community with that garbage for easy points.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Oh, so yet another disingenuous crap by the usual suspects. I swear this controversy really made everyone stupider.

They cheated to win the World Race, not because the content was too hard for them.

Nevermind that multiple teams cleared on stream without the use of any cheats, gotta demonize the entire raid community with that garbage for easy points.

I'm literally part of the raid community.... I've been raiding since Binding Coil lmao.


Cheats can be hidden on stream. Easily. I'm not claiming every hardcore raider cheats. I know they all don't. But we also know that things a minority does will affect us all. See waymarks and no longer being able to place them. That was how my group cleared T9 back in the day, by me being able to manually place waymarks for Divebombs.

[Kolaina]

You know there aren't mods that can solve mechanics for you right?.

Yes. Yes there are. There are mods that show you the safe spots on the floor. A little research and it’s not hard at all to find evidence of this.

[Tiramu]

Why do people assume that people will quit the game after 1 try?
People have all the time in the world to complete it

They'd try more than once, obviously.

Because a significant proportion of the casual playerbase are there to enjoy another FF story, and while they might have a dabble in high end content, they are not there to be high end raiders.

These are two completely different playerbases with different expectations.

Story content being tuned towards casual players, thus being generally easy with the occasional challenging battle is about right.

The game then has no shortage of hard content for more skilled players. Extemes from ARR to EW, Savage from HW to EW, Ultimates, Palace of the Dead, Heaven on High, Eureka, Unreal and Criterion,a heck some of the normal raids are pretty tough.

We have content for both playerbases and I think thats fine. Although, more content - be it casual, midcore or hardcore, will never go amiss.

[Rhael]

The game then has no shortage of hard content for more skilled players.

Four bosses every eight months counts as "no shortage"? For people who are only interested in ultimates, one boss per year on average counts as "no shortage"? You're drastically overestimating the amount of content available in this game.

[RobynDaBank]

Four bosses every eight months counts as "no shortage"? For people who are only interested in ultimates, one boss per year on average counts as "no shortage"? You're drastically overestimating the amount of content available in this game.

I mean, you don't just do the Ultimate, do you? Think it also needs the Savage tier completed.

[Zeastria]

Normal content should be easy! but would be nice to have a middel ground to harder content (there is a huge gap between them).
Many have a life outside the game and can not spend 8hrs on a game everyday!