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    I miss ye olde MMO days where you had to read the quests to figure out what to do and markers were nonexistent.
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  2. #162
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    The game is about having fun and not about making it harder for players not to enjoy it. You already have options like Minium ILVL and for solo duties have option to play it very easy to very hard. You also have savage, EX, and ultimate duties. I don't see what your complaint is about normal content be too easy.
    Some players enjoy challenge and the problem with relegating it all to savage ex and ultimate is that 1) You don't get to actually fully utilize your job until max level and 2) it means the new player experience of doing 100+ hours of MSQ is an absolute slog for such players.
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    You also have savage, EX, and ultimate duties.
    ...that these so called competent players cant clear without a load of 3rd party programs. Yet they prate about others lack of skill levels.

    Pot, kettle, over.
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 02-11-2023 at 02:34 PM.

  4. #164
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Some players enjoy challenge and the problem with relegating it all to savage ex and ultimate is that 1) You don't get to actually fully utilize your job until max level and 2) it means the new player experience of doing 100+ hours of MSQ is an absolute slog for such players.



    It's almost as if we have 4 sets of extremes and savage content outside of the most current expansion that can be done while going through the story. Maybe the real problem is the extreme focus (from new players) on only the highest level difficult content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    ...that these so called competent players cant clear without a load of 3rd party programs. Yet they prate about others lack of skill levels.

    Pot, kettle, over.
    You do realize that the mod that people were freaking out over was one that lets you zoom out the camera more right? You know there aren't mods that can solve mechanics for you right? I reckon more people use mods to see their character naked then anything else.
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  7. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    You do realize that the mod that people were freaking out over was one that lets you zoom out the camera more right? You know there aren't mods that can solve mechanics for you right? I reckon more people use mods to see their character naked then anything else.
    Dont need mods at all. Dont need any of them. Game can be cleared w/out them, has been done and tested that way, as per YoshiP. Non issue. Mods arent needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Some players enjoy challenge and the problem with relegating it all to savage ex and ultimate is that 1) You don't get to actually fully utilize your job until max level and 2) it means the new player experience of doing 100+ hours of MSQ is an absolute slog for such players.
    You do know that the MSQ solo instances have a very hard setting?

    I reckon more people use mods to see their character naked then anything else.
    Can do that with Emperor's New gear just as easily. No mods needed. Also, those specific mods are a can of worms you do NOT want to open.
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 02-11-2023 at 02:41 PM.

  8. #167
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    It's almost as if we have 4 sets of extremes and savage content outside of the most current expansion that can be done while going through the story. Maybe the real problem is the extreme focus (from new players) on only the highest level difficult content.
    I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that literally every feature in the game is locked behind doing the MSQ. As compared to most other MMOs that let you do max level content the moment you hit max level. And lets not forget that low level job kits are generally a train wreck.
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  9. #168
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    You do realize that the mod that people were freaking out over was one that lets you zoom out the camera more right? You know there aren't mods that can solve mechanics for you right? I reckon more people use mods to see their character naked then anything else.



    Pretty sure they were also using one that displayed where AOEs would hit. And thats just ones we saw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Pretty sure they were also using one that displayed where AOEs would hit. And thats just ones we saw.
    Not the same team.
    What does it have to do with the difficulty of casual content by the way?
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  11. #170
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    Not the same team.
    What does it have to do with the difficulty of casual content by the way?

    Absolutely nothing. But if one team was using it likely others were too. And if harder content is what people want, why do they find shortcuts to make it easier?


    Note, I'm not saying no to harder casual content. I've long stated that alliance raids should be locked to the highest ilvl of the patch they released in.
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