The difficulty of Normal Content in this game needs to increase.

[Volgia]

Good, I hope it doesn't either.

The content has largely remained the same in terms of difficulty, but the jobs have been dumbed down to the point of no complexity, which ends up making any content, normal to extreme to ultimate, being kind of dull.

[XtremePrime]

The difficulty of Normal Content in this game needs to increase.

No it doesn't and nothing good can come out of it. Just let casual story players enjoy their story in the story-driven game without having to worry about not being able to complete that content.
If they want to get into harder difficulty content, they'll do that of their own accord, not be forced into it.

[ReynTime]

No it doesn't and nothing good can come out of it. Just let casual story players enjoy their story in the story-driven game without having to worry about not being able to complete that content.
If they want to get into harder difficulty content, they'll do that of their own accord, not be forced into it.

Most AA and AAA games are story driven. They're still challenging the average player more than XIV's MSQ does.

[Gember]

No it doesn't and nothing good can come out of it. Just let casual story players enjoy their story in the story-driven game without having to worry about not being able to complete that content.
If they want to get into harder difficulty content, they'll do that of their own accord, not be forced into it.

Level 100 boss should not feel like a level 50 boss. Thankfully they made some changes in Dawntrail regarding difficulty. Now people can feel good about themselves when they accomplish things. Player progression is very much a MMO vibe.

[Merrigan]

No it doesn't and nothing good can come out of it. Just let casual story players enjoy their story in the story-driven game without having to worry about not being able to complete that content.
If they want to get into harder difficulty content, they'll do that of their own accord, not be forced into it.

For God's sake, please stop making this messy shortcut between ‘bad player’ and ‘casual’.

[Mawlzy]

Being able to do the dance for a single fight that you spend countless hours on until you can do it in your sleep doesn't mean those players are anything close to good in normal content. I often see Legend titles fall into the hole or die to the AoEs around the hole on the final boss of the latest MSQ dungeon. Or don't get close enough to the wall on the second boss. They also tend to greed a *lot* more and end up making stupid mistakes. And that's perfectly okay, because people who can clear Savage aren't some sort of god gamer that never messes up. We all mess up. Wipes sometimes happen. We pick ourselves up and try again.

That's fair. Maybe the main requirement to be a successful raider is to have an extremely high threshold to the boredom of repetition.

[AmiableApkallu]

That's fair. Maybe the main requirement to be a successful raider is to have an extremely high threshold to the boredom of repetition.

What repetition, exactly?

Savage raids have a weekly loot restriction on release, just like the normal and alliance raids. Worse, you get only one chance per week to roll, so if you win nothing, then you win nothing for the week. Still worse, if you decide to go back into the fight for whatever reason when you've already cleared, you cause there to be less loot for everyone else to roll on. The whole system really doesn't want you clearing each fight more than once each week.

I also seem to recall that Ultimates also only award one token per week on release, but don't quote me on that.

The real repetition is pulling the boss, wiping, deciding what to do better/differently next time, and giving it another go. And honestly, that's the same philosophy I'd suggest everyone approach normal and casual content with: I don't care whether the party wipes in an MSQ dungeon. Let's just try not to wipe the same way twice.

[TaleraRistain]

That's fair. Maybe the main requirement to be a successful raider is to have an extremely high threshold to the boredom of repetition.

As someone who does Savage I can tell you that is definitely a requirement. You have to be willing to bang your head against the same five steps over and over and over in the dance for hours until you get it. Then you move on to the next five steps. I love it and I do get something out of it so it's rewarding for me, but you definitely need to be able to handle repetition. And we can definitely mess up even in easy content. I can clear the current Savage tier but I still get my behind swept around the arena on those stupid brooms. Never been able to get the movement on that boss down. Either I die (or get a million vulns so the healer wishes I were dead) when I dps or tank, or shield the heck out of myself on healer. If I forced myself to do Grand Cosmos over and over and over like I do Savage then I could probably get it down. But casual content is also a place where we can let our hair down a little and not have to be so uptight about things like getting a vuln or messing up our rotation. So I try to have a more casual mindset toward that content.

[ArchlordPie]

Nah, the requirements to be a successful raider are the following:

1) Meet the bare minimum reqs for whatever type of prog you want to do. Week 1 clear? Better be full pentamelded. Aiming for a week 4-5 clear? Normal raid gear and some of last patch's upgraded tomestone (or uncapped tomestone on a X.0 patch) is probably fine.

2) Have a functioning brain.

3) Find 7 other players with complementary roles and brains. This is the hard part.

4) Be willing to make mistakes and learn from them. This is the part that casuals think is toxic.

5) Make mistakes and learn from them until you know the whole fight.

6) Clear the fight.

Raiding in FF14 doesn't actually require THAT much skill. You just need patience and 7 teammates with brains and most of the rest will happen automatically from there.

[Mawlzy]

Nah, the requirements to be a successful raider are the following:

1) Meet the bare minimum reqs for whatever type of prog you want to do. Week 1 clear? Better be full pentamelded. Aiming for a week 4-5 clear? Normal raid gear and some of last patch's upgraded tomestone (or uncapped tomestone on a X.0 patch) is probably fine.

2) Have a functioning brain.

3) Find 7 other players with complementary roles and brains. This is the hard part.

4) Be willing to make mistakes and learn from them. This is the part that casuals think is toxic.

5) Make mistakes and learn from them until you know the whole fight.

6) Clear the fight.

Raiding in FF14 doesn't actually require THAT much skill. You just need patience and 7 teammates with brains and most of the rest will happen automatically from there.

Given many members of the raiding community are convinced that most of the player base has two brain cells (each, I think), 2 and 3 are tricky, and 4 and 5 sound tedious rather than toxic.