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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Whenever I hear "the normal content is too easy" it really sounds like "I'm too bad to do the hard content", which ends up sounding pretty damn silly. Git gud.
    This makes even less sense than what Vel said.
    "Don't lecture others if you can't do completely unrelated content cleanly" is a stretch but I could see the intent.
    "If you think content is easy it's because you're not good enough" is so absurd it just leaves me dumbfounded.
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    Last edited by Kazhar; 02-13-2023 at 11:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    This makes even less sense than what Vel said.
    "Don't lecture others if you can't do completely unrelated content cleanly" is a stretch but I could see the intent.
    "If you think content is easy it's because you're not good enough" just leaves me dumbfounded.
    Notice the OP said "normal content". Why do you suppose they did that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Notice the OP said "normal content". Why do you suppose they did that?
    No matter what's your prefered activity in this game, you're forced to do normal content at some point.

    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    If you have any third party addons to help you in savage or ex or Ultimate, then "git gud" is irrelevant. if / when you can beat said harder content with a clean UI, then Ill listen. Not before.
    I implied it before but let me ask again. What do you mean by "you'll listen. Not before"? Why don't you do it now? Do you want proof from each poster complaining that they're able to clear any savage content without add-ons? Do you want me to start a stream just to win an internet argument with you?
    I don't agree with Saraide's take on casual = ERP but the generalization you're making is no less ridiculous nor harmful.
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    Last edited by Kazhar; 02-13-2023 at 11:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    No matter what's your prefered activity in this game, you're forced to do normal content at some point.



    I implied it before but let me ask again. What do you mean by "you'll listen. Not before"? Why don't you do it now? Do you want proof from each poster complaining that they're able to clear any savage content without add-ons? Do you want me to start a stream just to win an internet argument with you?
    I don't agree with Saraide's take on casual = ERP but the generalization you're making is no less ridiculous nor harmful.
    Okay, you're right, that was a stretch.

    my real opinion is this. I don't want normal content harder, it's hard enough already for me. And it's not going to change, because I'm willing to bet that the majority of players suck as much as I do, and the devs want the mass of people that suck happyish.
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    "Don't lecture others if you can't do completely unrelated content cleanly" is a stretch but I could see the intent.
    It isnt a stretch at all.

    Im not allowed to ask if they are using addons, those that have these addons dont talk about it for obvious reasons..but in all truth, from now on....that unspoken question will always be there.

    Won't it?
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 02-13-2023 at 06:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    It isnt a stretch at all.

    Im not allowed to ask if they are using addons, those that have these addons dont talk about it for obvious reasons..but in all truth, from now on....that unspoken question will always be there.

    Won't it?
    Only for the .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the player-base that cares what other people are doing. People are going to do what they do. Even if someone is utilizing third-party tools and/or addons, that doesn't affect your gameplay at all. That's a them thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    It isnt a stretch at all.

    Im not allowed to ask if they are using addons, those that have these addons dont talk about it for obvious reasons..but in all truth, from now on....that unspoken question will always be there.

    Won't it?
    No one is denying that some people use cactbot or whatever. But you just generally accuse every raider of doing that because it's possible with no evidence. Under the same logic it's completely valid to accuse you of using ERP mods, RMT and/or gathering bots. It's possible that you could use them and that's enough, right?
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    No one is denying that some people use cactbot or whatever.
    So you agree they are cheating.

    because it's possible with no evidence.
    You just admitted they do cheat, so theres my evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Whenever I hear "the normal content is too easy" it really sounds like "I'm too bad to do the hard content", which ends up sounding pretty damn silly. Git gud.
    Oh I can do it if I want to......I just wont be doing it with a dps meter addon that also has a system to tell me where to stand and how to avoid mechanics.

    My point is this:

    If you have any third party addons to help you in savage or ex or Ultimate, then "git gud" is irrelevant. if / when you can beat said harder content with a clean UI, then Ill listen. Not before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post

    Push people out of their comfort zone, Slowly increase the difficulty of content as the expansions go on.

    They already do.

    If you really want harder content, go play savage, CLL, Eureka, any of the other content in the game that gets harder Don't make it worse on casual players.
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    Last edited by ballprince; 02-13-2023 at 12:11 PM. Reason: corrected wording

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