The difficulty of Normal Content in this game needs to increase.

[Payadopa]

I've encountered quite a lot of players who I wouldn't allow to get near Savages with a 10 foot pole, but do well enough in EXs to where they pass. But yeah, I know what you mean, there's always a few people who really shouldn't be there and it always shows, even in older EXs. Good luck clearing EX2 sometimes, because I've been in farm parties where half the team are so bad that we actually hit enrage, the PL included. I usually leave those after the 3rd failed attempt.

I dunno, man. I just stay and try to be positive/help them improve. Maybe not 90 minutes but definitely more than 3 tries. That's barely a warm-up. lol I guess Miyazaki is to blame. These days, if I start a PF I always include 'expect wipes, no salt' and people are usually really nice and we discuss strategies. Of course it doesn't work all the time, though.

[RyuDragnier]

I dunno, man. I just stay and try to be positive/help them improve. Maybe not 90 minutes but definitely more than 3 tries. That's barely a warm-up. lol I guess Miyazaki is to blame. These days, if I start a PF I always include 'expect wipes, no salt' and people are usually really nice and we discuss strategies. Of course it doesn't work all the time, though.

I have issues when it says farm party, as that leads to certain expectations. If it says "clear for 1, then maybe farm", or "getting the rust off", my expectations are not that high. But do not post a farm party if you, the PL, do not know how to do the fight.

[Deveryn]

I have issues when it says farm party, as that leads to certain expectations. If it says "clear for 1, then maybe farm", or "getting the rust off", my expectations are not that high. But do not post a farm party if you, the PL, do not know how to do the fight.

Don't get me started on that!

[IkaraGreydancer]

In before the white knights come to tell a tale how they had a one wipe this year and for that reason the story should be easier

Instead I'll just point out that things HAVE gotten consistently more difficult as time goes on. Compare any ARR trial at ilvl to the ones we've gotten in EW like Barb and it's a night and day difference. It's a slow and steady increase that HAS brought out more better players over time. People just tend to remember many of the bad players they encounter but I'd bet my account all of them have met far more good than bad.

What OP is asking for at the end already happens. I say instead of complaining about something like this take the time to try and build your fellow WoLs up to be better. And I don't want to hear that BS excuse about getting in trouble. I've been a mentor for years and have yet to run into that issue. You want players to be better? Contribute to it yourself

[Kolaina]

Contrarians strike again! As per usual...

I guess we need to start saying the game needs to be easier and then they'll come out and say it needs to be harder. Or just double down.

Ah. So anyone with a different opinion is just having one to be difficult. No diversity of thought or anything like that.

Don’t stray from the echo chamber you darn “contrarians”

[KeshLives]

I get annoyed by it when people say crap like 'I cant do savage because I have a life'.

I get annoyed when someone automatically thinks it's a skill issue.

For me, sure, I could do high-end clears if I got into a static, and took the time to play with them, etc. I used to be a raid group's Swiss Army Knife, meaning I could bring whichever role we were short on a given knight, usually tank or healer, but sometimes I got to DPS. It's got nothing to do with skill.

It's all about "I have a life outside video games, and I refuse to schedule that life around a game, even if I do play it a lot." For me, it's that simple. I play games as my leisure time a lot, but, if family/spouse/etc want to do something out of the blue, I'm not going to tell them "Oh, sorry, can't spend time with you, I'm in a raid." YMMV.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Yep, this is true.

I think SE should work on ways to help players improve, though. No one should need an external website or discord channel to learn how to play their Job correctly.

Tbf what defines the term "correctly" though?

[Kolaina]

Tbf what defines the term "correctly" though?

I’d say it’s a loose term but there are definitely “incorrect” ways to play.

As an example, I had a red mage yesterday hard casting veraero and verthunder instead of dual casting them as a follow up to jolt. This is definitely not correct when you consider the individual cast times