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    For one they did not refer to a disability at all
    What do you think Resting Tremor Syndrome is? Before you say it doesnt exist, it does.

    I can still play the game at a level where i am not dragging other people down, but without any information of what this 'physically cant' actually means, then nobody can draw a conclusion as to what that poster means.
    Took me ten seconds to check what i already knew, fine and coarse tremors in muscles, often an early symptom of Parkinsons. You know what THAT is, dont you? Or do I need to explain further?

    Being competent at the game is just having the ability to learn from your mistakes and apply that information to get better.
    Being incompetent is throwing yourself into a group you are not ready for, and making 3/7 other people suffer because you never bothered to get better.
    Not what i asked you.

    That's a great point people seem to overlook a lot. We have people of all ages and abilities out there playing this game. If they can't all at least enjoy the base level of content, that's going to drive a lot of people away.
    Deveryn, from what i can see here a lot of these people dont CARE about anyone other than themselves, and to be honest theyd be fine with "weeding out the bads", i.e people who dont play perfectly at 10000000000000000-000% efficiency with perfect rotations.

    This is actually the toxic WOW mentality, WOW has fallen over and now they want FF 14 to be like WOW..lastly, I find the idea of making this thread hysterically funny, not to mention utterly hypocritical since the very same "competent players" who demanded "challenging hard content" cant clear it without CHEATING and a hundred addons.

    "Normal content needs to be harder but we ELITE raiders cant clear Ultimate content that we demanded................WITHOUT CHEATING"

    Seriously....theres a fundamental disconnect here.
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    . You'll see Mythic raiders who thought they would wrap up FF14's savage quickly during down time 'cause they heard about houw easy and casual raiding in this game is, and surprise how hard the last fight of a tier kicking their arse.
    I saw those and havent laughed so hard in years, it was ABSOLUTE schadenfreude to see their egos deflated so fast.

    Before "We are the best of the best we can do this ezpz"

    After: "MEDIC!!!!"

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    When those players reach the end game, and jump into current tier dungeons/raids, even on normal mode, they die to mechanics like AOE Circles, because throughout the MSQ, they were never punished for standing in them.
    My dear dear Dixiebell,. I have seen VETERAN players, raiders with relic weps and titles for Savage etc die to simple mechanics.............in Deltascape. I have seen veteran players forget or neglect to stack in Prae, I have seen veteran players with raid achieves wearing the wrong gear or getting their rears kicked...........in Sastasha.

    So: Seriously. No. Just no.

    When those players reach the end game, and jump into current tier dungeons/raids, even on normal mode, they die to mechanics like AOE Circles, because throughout the MSQ, they were never punished for standing in them.
    Assuming they even do....this isnt WOW, FF 14 isnt raid or die, this isnt a raid centred game, FF 14 isnt raid do m plus pvp or GTFO There is PLENTY to do outside of instanced content.

    Having 0 difficulty MSQ/casual content in the game does not promote player growth, it just causes them to sit back and lazy ride the way through the game without the need to ever learn.
    i dont know WHERE you get this delusion that MSQ content isnt difficult or challenging. Those encounters DO have a very hard mode on them...or had you forgotten?..so if you wish you CAN do these on hard mode anytime you want a 'challenge"

    But you did know that..didnt you.

    You just chose not to mention it.

    Hm?
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    The game is about having fun and not about making it harder for players not to enjoy it. You already have options like Minium ILVL and for solo duties have option to play it very easy to very hard. You also have savage, EX, and ultimate duties. I don't see what your complaint is about normal content be too easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    The game is about having fun and not about making it harder for players not to enjoy it. You already have options like Minium ILVL and for solo duties have option to play it very easy to very hard. You also have savage, EX, and ultimate duties. I don't see what your complaint is about normal content be too easy.
    Some players enjoy challenge and the problem with relegating it all to savage ex and ultimate is that 1) You don't get to actually fully utilize your job until max level and 2) it means the new player experience of doing 100+ hours of MSQ is an absolute slog for such players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Some players enjoy challenge and the problem with relegating it all to savage ex and ultimate is that 1) You don't get to actually fully utilize your job until max level and 2) it means the new player experience of doing 100+ hours of MSQ is an absolute slog for such players.



    It's almost as if we have 4 sets of extremes and savage content outside of the most current expansion that can be done while going through the story. Maybe the real problem is the extreme focus (from new players) on only the highest level difficult content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    It's almost as if we have 4 sets of extremes and savage content outside of the most current expansion that can be done while going through the story. Maybe the real problem is the extreme focus (from new players) on only the highest level difficult content.
    I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that literally every feature in the game is locked behind doing the MSQ. As compared to most other MMOs that let you do max level content the moment you hit max level. And lets not forget that low level job kits are generally a train wreck.
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    I miss ye olde MMO days where you had to read the quests to figure out what to do and markers were nonexistent.
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    You also have savage, EX, and ultimate duties.
    ...that these so called competent players cant clear without a load of 3rd party programs. Yet they prate about others lack of skill levels.

    Pot, kettle, over.
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