The difficulty of Normal Content in this game needs to increase.

[VelKallor]

Oh I see. JP servers have no mediocre players then? Must all congregate in a single place. Uh huh. Everyone seems skilled when you fall below the bar yourself

Actually, JP servers have good communities, good people, a cooperative and happy atmosphere, their players are competent and capable with a lot of patience, we did Omega the other day , we had a new player who kept dying to the mechs, so one of the jp players did a / beckon to the new player, put a marker above his head, then /pointed to himself, the message was clear "stick close to me"....result we oneshot it.

Newbie got a /hug before the player vanished.

As for that last comment, Ill just say you sound like Firemage and leave it at that.

[DixieBellOCE]

Actually, JP servers have good communities, good people, a cooperative and happy atmosphere, their players are competent and capable with a lot of patience, we did Omega the other day , we had a new player who kept dying to the mechs, so one of the jp players did a / beckon to the new player, put a marker above his head, then /pointed to himself, the message was clear "stick close to me"....result we oneshot it.

Newbie got a /hug before the player vanished.

This basically.

The JP playerbase just have a better mentality towards playing with others, it's seen as a terrible shame to drag a group down by being incompetent so they work towards getting better and improving at the game so they don't stand out.

[Greyhawk]

I would actually like to see them change up the mechanics similar to ... Alphascape 1.0 I think it is? The boss in that trial never does the same rotation, and each encounter mixes it up. That's a start. I think they should apply that to all bosses in more than trials, as well. It would increase some difficulty, while not making it overboard.

I know Yoshi-P is big on carries for others, to help people along.

[VelKallor]

Alphascape 1.0 I think it is?

So you want STORY dungeons tuned to an OPTIONAL 8 MAN raid level? Thats insane.

[Raven2014]

The game does not get harder the longer you play it.

No it's the opposite.

Before I started playing this game, I raid a lot in WoW. Went all the way to the Lich-King and did a bit of heroic in Cata, and leading my own raid group. When I switched, I remember Coil kicked my arse, the "I need echo to clear" level of butt kicking. It's not until the very last tier that I managed to clear when it was still relevant.

And guess what? Comparing to current raid, Coil wasn't even "hard". The jobs were more simple, the mechs were straight forward, and overall required less precision. Yet these day I hardly struggle any more, because I no longer pay the "no0b tax". When I'm in party though, I can still regularly see new "no0b" (aka the old me) playing the game. If you go to the WoW forum that's still true btw. You'll see Mythic raiders who thought they would wrap up FF14's savage quickly during down time 'cause they heard about houw easy and casual raiding in this game is, and surprise how hard the last fight of a tier kicking their arse.


The point is ... once you play something long enough, it's less about the content getting easier but more about your experience. As such, the longer you play, the more skewl your perception of difficulty will become. The casual content is not tune for the sake of the veterans, but to please newcommer, that's why they're called casual content. If casual content is made hard enough to provide challenge to veterans player, it will likely become a brickwall to new players.


And that is not reconcilable. It's why some people eventually leave to play another game, citing they need to seek new "challenge". And once they found it, it's not necessary because the new game is harder than the old, it's simply because they no longer have the institutional knowledge and experience. And this apply to many places in real life, not just gaming.

[DixieBellOCE]

If casual content is made hard enough to provide challenge to veterans player, it will likely become a brickwall to new players.

The casual content of the game should be challenging enough to a casual player that they have to adapt and grow as a player in order to complete it.
Having 0 difficulty MSQ/casual content in the game does not promote player growth, it just causes them to sit back and lazy ride the way through the game without the need to ever learn.

When those players reach the end game, and jump into current tier dungeons/raids, even on normal mode, they die to mechanics like AOE Circles, because throughout the MSQ, they were never punished for standing in them.

[Greyhawk]

So you want STORY dungeons tuned to an OPTIONAL 8 MAN raid level? Thats insane.

You either didn't read and had some epileptic knee jerk reaction or didn't understand what I said.

[VelKallor]

t's seen as a terrible shame to drag a group down by being incompetent

Id be interested Dixie to see if

1. You now acknowledge what that player said about a PHYSICAL disablility that you seem to have ignored.

2. i am yet to see YOUR definition of "competent".

Would that be needing a Masters degree and 6 years of experience to be allowed to work as a cashier at $8 an hour?

[DixieBellOCE]

Id be interested Dixie to see if

1. You now acknowledge what that player said about as PHYSICAL disablility that you seem to have ignored

2. i am yet to see YOUR definition of "competent".

Would that be needing a Masters degree and 6 years of experience to be allowed to work as a cashier at $8 an hour?

For one they did not refer to a disability at all

Second, I too, have a physical disability in my left hand. it may not be as major, as it is just a tendon that never healed from when it was damaged, but it does impair the way i use a keyboard or controller.
I can still play the game at a level where i am not dragging other people down, but without any information of what this 'physically cant' actually means, then nobody can draw a conclusion as to what that poster means.

Being competent at the game is just having the ability to learn from your mistakes and apply that information to get better.
Being incompetent is throwing yourself into a group you are not ready for, and making 3/7 other people suffer because you never bothered to get better.

[Deveryn]

Id be interested Dixie to see if

1. You now acknowledge what that player said about a PHYSICAL disablility that you seem to have ignored.

2. i am yet to see YOUR definition of "competent".

Would that be needing a Masters degree and 6 years of experience to be allowed to work as a cashier at $8 an hour?

That's a great point people seem to overlook a lot. We have people of all ages and abilities out there playing this game. If they can't all at least enjoy the base level of content, that's going to drive a lot of people away. I find it all fun and fairly relaxing. I save the stress for higher tiers and I don't want to see more people struggling in the lowest tier. Roulette can be challenging enough with new people and those that can't quite get a hang of things.