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    Kyouko Owo
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    Dancer Lv 90

    Healer role in frontlines

    Playing healer in frontlines used to be so much fun, being able to save someone with rescue, surviving a burst with the lb, strong single and aoe healing, managing your mana, astro cards, fairy auge, whm flowers, etc..

    With the current pvp kit you are just another dps but with a weak single player heal every 15 seconds and a dmg ability every 15 seconds. It feels so boring and simple to play compared to what it used to be, and while this issue is the same with every job, healers suffer from it more.

    I really wish S.E will care more about frontlines and pvp overall and make it more complex and fun like it used to be in the next expansion, but I have 0 hopes.

    The only content I used to do was frontlines, but with how boring and unbalanced its since 6.1 I barely do any nowadays. I really miss all the fun I had with my friends playing frontlines all day, no one does fl anymore or they stopped playing the game

    Thank you for reading have a wonderful day
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    Piush Stumbleine
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    Shiva
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Healers used to play like healers. Now they feel like playing a League or a Dota character so you just press through your buttons and wait for cooldowns to go down and repeat
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    Kon Kichi
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    You can still save people as healers, they have a lot of CC or defensive buffs in their kit for their team members now.
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    Kayf Xiv
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    Masamune
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    I agree.

    Watching my teammates die in Frontline while I can't save/heal them is painful as a healer.
    What's the point of a healer role that doesn't properly heal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacksz View Post
    I agree.

    Watching my teammates die in Frontline while I can't save/heal them is painful as a healer.
    What's the point of a healer role that doesn't properly heal?
    The point is that in a PvP game mode players are supposed to die. A concept fundamentally incompatible with PvE healing design.
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    Kyouko Owo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toukichiful View Post
    You can still save people as healers, they have a lot of CC or defensive buffs in their kit for their team members now.
    In FL once you use your 2 cds you are useless as healer, and most of the time it doesnt do anything because that person gets stun chained to death. Also, i wouldnt call it a lot of CC, when whm has one every 25secs and the lb, and astro gravity each 15secs, both of them being single target.
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    Player Necrotica's Avatar
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    Dolly Derringer
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Pvp was fun. They had to put a stop to that.
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    Connor Whelan
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    As a Scholar in PvP it really feels like a support dps rather than a healer, for better or worse. And if that wasn’t enough they made Biolysis / Adloquium spread so disgustingly powerful in Frontlines (full potency DoT on 24 people that has no player amount limit and reduces their damage lol) that you really can’t ask for anything more without just breaking PvP entirely. Don’t get me wrong, managing buffs and debuffs with Deployment Tactics is the most fun I’ve had on Scholar, but it’s still frustrating when everyone is dying and all I can do is increase their damage dealt, or lower the damage dealt by the enemy (which isn’t much help if everyone’s died already besides making it extremely easy to top the damage rankings lol). It’d be nice if we could at least do Physick or something lol
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    Wise Fuchsia
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    It doesn't matter how powerful the healer kit is when 20+ people wail on the target. If you can save them through all of that they would be massively overpowered.

    As it is, Healers are still stupidly strong in smaller skirmishes due the innate damage reduction Frontline has. It's already insanely hard to kill a competent melee Job with just few players and if they have even a single healer supporting them it become a nightmare.

    Thankfully they aren't wasting resources to have separate balance for Frontlines as it is inherently impossible to make it feel good for both small and large skirmishes, the mode is broken by its very nature of being 72 player meme.
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    Ivan Moondiver
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    Alpha
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Playing Astrologian is the closest healer you might get being able to pull 5 heals (Aspected Benefic + dual cast + Macrocosmos) and honestly It is way more fun vs other healers in pvp.

    But honestly I am glad at the moment there isn't too much healing, Frontline has enough sponges to deal with
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