The Skillfloor

[Kansene]

Agreed. Especially when I can beat 99% of you players [now & Feast] on a 1 v 1. Yeah the job I play is broke [currently/still my main], but it requires true combo to do it right. That aside, there is no high skill floor, since I (1 v 3) to (1 v 5) duel people in CC just to satiate my thirst for blood and the rush of staying on the edge like Feast did.

The skill floor is raised, so many of you toddlers can reach the ceiling. Sorry not sorry, cause like I am gonna say before my sub ends. 99% of you players are weaklings.

Whatever the #s are but about 13 million of you players

I'm so sorry, but I can only imagine you as whoever created Coldsteel the Hedgehog :,,D

[Oni_Akuma]

I'm so sorry, but I can only imagine you as whoever created Coldsteel the Hedgehog :,,D

I agree! About 90% of it lol. Didn't know about him till now but I'm probably like a mix of him and sonic.exe. >

[True-to-Caesar]

In Smite (does that game still exist?) you only had 4 abilities, and it had a way higher floor and ceiling then any mmo and even most moba's, but that's also because you had to aim your actual abilities to try and land them, so it can be done.

But it will never be done in ff14, because that doesn't seem to be what yoshi wants.

He seems to want FL and CC to just be another mode to have fun in like deep dungeons or gold saucer, hence why even being crystal in cc is about 1700 rating in wow arena, nothing to brag about really.

It's not designed as a sweaty gamemode to begin with, the latest cc map shows this even better.

You can be sweaty in pvp just like you can be sweaty in chocoboraces or mahjongg, but that's not the core designphilosophy behind it if you look at it, whereas WoW arena is 100% designed to be so and is much harder and more competitive in nature because of it.

I have hardly played that game. Any pvp game with classes is often unbalanced as hell (Team Fortress 2 is an exception though). I used to prefer shooters (now I prefer slashers for PvP).
However I do hear that Dota 2 takes a lot of practice and skill, but I’ve never been much of a fan of that type of moba. Same as League.

In shooters/slashers, even with the most weak weapon, if you’re good you’re going to come out on top, because your actual irl abilities/reaction to deal with situations will do 80% of the work. That’s what I like about them even though the slasher games I play are hard to get into, but after going through the learning curve it does pay well and I really like that kind of reward. Seeing how well you’re doing compared to before.

Hell even Fortnite with its stupid bloom mechanic (worst thing ever for a shooter) takes some knowledge and practice to do well in it.

You will never indeed get that in FFXIV or any MMORPG for that matter because they’re always subject to awful class balancing, gameplay and for most over reliance on gear.

[Towa-Musa]

Agreed. Especially when I can beat 99% of you players [now & Feast] on a 1 v 1. Yeah the job I play is broke [currently/still my main], but it requires true combo to do it right. That aside, there is no high skill floor, since I (1 v 3) to (1 v 5) duel people in CC just to satiate my thirst for blood and the rush of staying on the edge like Feast did.

The skill floor is raised, so many of you toddlers can reach the ceiling. Sorry not sorry, cause like I am gonna say before my sub ends. 99% of you players are weaklings.

Whatever the #s are but about 13 million of you players

you beat people who are not even there to win, they just wanna grind the series pass lol

[Oni_Akuma]

you beat people who are not even there to win, they just wanna grind the series pass lol

That is the even more sadder part of the truth lol and I agree 100% lol. There are plenty of homies from pvp community that I respect their skill. But overall that is still the 1% club.

Like idk how is it possible that many can't exceed passing plat or under gold hell? Many don't even recuperate correctly to maximize its use case . I mean S.E did try to make it more friendly I get it, but the participants are relatively the same people you come across. People care more about getting useless things except its only useful as being endgame glamour than actually being useful xD . Plus many of them are cowards too lol doesn't matter which mode they play in. Whether it is Frontlines or CC.

About 90 to 95% of the complainers on these forums are most likely newbies [zoomers as they say] that hadn't got propper pvp training with a skilled mentor.

Someone mentioned another game like Smite earlier. That game is a Moba with a variety of options and counterplay gear and champions. Even if it is 4 skills, item and champion choice added to the skill ceiling.

Current skill ceiling is like this:

https://media.tenor.com/jdfPBdUDOZYA...toy-houses.mp4

[ICountFrom0]

The skillfloor would be lower if gold rank players wern't allowed to slaughter any bronze they want at any time.

[Valence]

You guys from gilgamesh on those pvp forums are a sight to behold.

[maximesan514]

or just do like everyone else and download hacks from mmominion, square dont care.

[Towa-Musa]

That is the even more sadder part of the truth lol and I agree 100% lol. There are plenty of homies from pvp community that I respect their skill. But overall that is still the 1% club.

Like idk how is it possible that many can't exceed passing plat or under gold hell? Many don't even recuperate correctly to maximize its use case . I mean S.E did try to make it more friendly I get it, but the participants are relatively the same people you come across. People care more about getting useless things except its only useful as being endgame glamour than actually being useful xD . Plus many of them are cowards too lol doesn't matter which mode they play in. Whether it is Frontlines or CC.

About 90 to 95% of the complainers on these forums are most likely newbies [zoomers as they say] that hadn't got propper pvp training with a skilled mentor.

Someone mentioned another game like Smite earlier. That game is a Moba with a variety of options and counterplay gear and champions. Even if it is 4 skills, item and champion choice added to the skill ceiling.

Current skill ceiling is like this:

https://media.tenor.com/jdfPBdUDOZYA...toy-houses.mp4

you don't even need a mentor, people just need to /want/ to learn unfortunately they don't because to them pvp just is not fun anymore.

[Oni_Akuma]

Yeah for real there is absolutely no skill involved now man. I rather go back in time and duel all the top rank players than this mode. Didn't matter what rank you were, Diamond or Crystal. It was a great time when job identity was a thing. Someone quoted on all the complainers list of suggestions and we got this mode.

I am glad I am done with this game and so are the og legends until we find a suitable change in patches.