The Skillfloor

[Oni_Akuma]

Putting aside that you sound incredibly cringe with your talking down to others to be toddlers like as if you are someone special, I believe you are mistaking "skill floor got raised" with "skill floor got relocated".

As a whole, killing got made fundamentally easier and less reliant on full party bursts (not counting FL/RW) and almost every job has a fair bit of individual impact right now. People no longer need to rely on Healers to stay alive with most jobs.

On the flipside, with individualism comes the responsibility, which is where the floor is raised again and not having a healer up your a** 24/7 to bail you out of your bad decision making means you now more than ever abuse physical cover and running away to make up for it.

It got lowered in one place, raised in another. I don't think it actually raised as a whole, but the personal skill requirement is different to before.

None of this is skill ceiling though, that is a completely different thing and depends per job.

I don't gotta be saved in previous mode. My burst was enough to keep me alive in a 1 v 5 or more during feast skill set. Healers never needed to save me cause I had a 17-20k Bloodbath heal combo and perfect pot timing. I'm allowed to be cringe-ish. That comes with mastering PvP and the games hard coded mechanics.

To the smallest detail in micromanagement and optimization.

Idk how you can relocate a floor under a roof though? How does that make sense? If you mean it as housing, then yeah its a new House with a new floor and ceiling, then yes it makes sense. Now it is slightly more team based / and less individual skill based in some regions, but overall it is still childs play compared to all the micromanagement that had to be done before. Like yeah with LB now being the tool for execution for individuality, it still relies on a team coordination.

Before I killed every class in 6-8s flat combo when burst was ready without an LB. All tanks and healers died when a weaved combo was performed with LB. Even the infamous GNB/DRK and Healers. This every 1m+ [exception to RPR] LB gimmick is just funny entirely.

Personal skill is different before, but overall the calculations are the same in lining up your moves for optimal damage just like PvE.

[Kansene]

Agreed. Especially when I can beat 99% of you players [now & Feast] on a 1 v 1. Yeah the job I play is broke [currently/still my main], but it requires true combo to do it right. That aside, there is no high skill floor, since I (1 v 3) to (1 v 5) duel people in CC just to satiate my thirst for blood and the rush of staying on the edge like Feast did.

The skill floor is raised, so many of you toddlers can reach the ceiling. Sorry not sorry, cause like I am gonna say before my sub ends. 99% of you players are weaklings.

Whatever the #s are but about 13 million of you players

I'm so sorry, but I can only imagine you as whoever created Coldsteel the Hedgehog :,,D

[Oni_Akuma]

I'm so sorry, but I can only imagine you as whoever created Coldsteel the Hedgehog :,,D

I agree! About 90% of it lol. Didn't know about him till now but I'm probably like a mix of him and sonic.exe. >

[Towa-Musa]

Agreed. Especially when I can beat 99% of you players [now & Feast] on a 1 v 1. Yeah the job I play is broke [currently/still my main], but it requires true combo to do it right. That aside, there is no high skill floor, since I (1 v 3) to (1 v 5) duel people in CC just to satiate my thirst for blood and the rush of staying on the edge like Feast did.

The skill floor is raised, so many of you toddlers can reach the ceiling. Sorry not sorry, cause like I am gonna say before my sub ends. 99% of you players are weaklings.

Whatever the #s are but about 13 million of you players

you beat people who are not even there to win, they just wanna grind the series pass lol

[Oni_Akuma]

you beat people who are not even there to win, they just wanna grind the series pass lol

That is the even more sadder part of the truth lol and I agree 100% lol. There are plenty of homies from pvp community that I respect their skill. But overall that is still the 1% club.

Like idk how is it possible that many can't exceed passing plat or under gold hell? Many don't even recuperate correctly to maximize its use case . I mean S.E did try to make it more friendly I get it, but the participants are relatively the same people you come across. People care more about getting useless things except its only useful as being endgame glamour than actually being useful xD . Plus many of them are cowards too lol doesn't matter which mode they play in. Whether it is Frontlines or CC.

About 90 to 95% of the complainers on these forums are most likely newbies [zoomers as they say] that hadn't got propper pvp training with a skilled mentor.

Someone mentioned another game like Smite earlier. That game is a Moba with a variety of options and counterplay gear and champions. Even if it is 4 skills, item and champion choice added to the skill ceiling.

Current skill ceiling is like this:

https://media.tenor.com/jdfPBdUDOZYA...toy-houses.mp4

[Valence]

You guys from gilgamesh on those pvp forums are a sight to behold.

[Towa-Musa]

That is the even more sadder part of the truth lol and I agree 100% lol. There are plenty of homies from pvp community that I respect their skill. But overall that is still the 1% club.

Like idk how is it possible that many can't exceed passing plat or under gold hell? Many don't even recuperate correctly to maximize its use case . I mean S.E did try to make it more friendly I get it, but the participants are relatively the same people you come across. People care more about getting useless things except its only useful as being endgame glamour than actually being useful xD . Plus many of them are cowards too lol doesn't matter which mode they play in. Whether it is Frontlines or CC.

About 90 to 95% of the complainers on these forums are most likely newbies [zoomers as they say] that hadn't got propper pvp training with a skilled mentor.

Someone mentioned another game like Smite earlier. That game is a Moba with a variety of options and counterplay gear and champions. Even if it is 4 skills, item and champion choice added to the skill ceiling.

Current skill ceiling is like this:

https://media.tenor.com/jdfPBdUDOZYA...toy-houses.mp4

you don't even need a mentor, people just need to /want/ to learn unfortunately they don't because to them pvp just is not fun anymore.

[Oni_Akuma]

Yeah for real there is absolutely no skill involved now man. I rather go back in time and duel all the top rank players than this mode. Didn't matter what rank you were, Diamond or Crystal. It was a great time when job identity was a thing. Someone quoted on all the complainers list of suggestions and we got this mode.

I am glad I am done with this game and so are the og legends until we find a suitable change in patches.

[ICountFrom0]

The skillfloor would be lower if gold rank players wern't allowed to slaughter any bronze they want at any time.

[maximesan514]

or just do like everyone else and download hacks from mmominion, square dont care.