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  1. #11
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    It works fine the way it is. You even have a two arrows at the bottom of your screen to tell you when you have stopped moving. Plus you also have a button that auto faces you to the target and stops you.

    People complained and now they are used to it. You're just late to the party. It's not just about PvP. It's about balance with PvE as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    It works fine the way it is. You even have a two arrows at the bottom of your screen to tell you when you have stopped moving. Plus you also have a button that auto faces you to the target and stops you.

    People complained and now they are used to it. You're just late to the party. It's not just about PvP. It's about balance with PvE as well.
    I may be used to it, but I never will like it. It's dumb, it makes me seem like an idiot for not being able to think, walk and talk at the same time.

    And in no way is it balanced for PVE, it could be done better. Even the explanation give was more heavily placed in for PVP. Seriously what MMO doesn't have soloing casters going bind/nuke/sleep/nuke/bind/nuke? Obviously this one now, and you can't kite them now since movement cancel. It's stupid.
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    this would be a whm's wet dream.

    it would make BLM invincible in pvp tho.
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    For PVP it makes sense, so it should be implemented in it's own zone/instance.
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    there are plenty of solutions to this without having to resort to casting while moving. which, even playing mainly whm myself, I would LOVE, but it very much is OP.

    I don't see why we'd have to stand still throughout the entire cast. there could be a midway commit point, and it could be different for each spell. but once you hit that commit, the casting bar changes colour and you can move, and it should NOT stop you to complete the cast as is does now ><

    could also implement some way to increase initiatives (casting speed) i don't see why it takes me just as long to cast the same spell at level 50, as it does at level 1. make initiatives a trickle down benefit of Mind and Piety?

    and if it is made where we can cast while moving, there really should be a penalty. maybe double the MP cost. (I hate this idea, but it does make sense)
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  6. #16
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    Yoshi gave a thorough explenation as to why it is also implemented in PvE. It works great right now, i don't see the problem. You do big damage, you have to stay stationary.

    The only time moving while casting is somewhat vital is maybe in primals, but we can get passed that with different set ups. The rest of the time, you are usually away from the enemies standing in one spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    Yoshi gave a thorough explenation as to why it is also implemented in PvE. It works great right now, i don't see the problem. You do big damage, you have to stay stationary.

    The only time moving while casting is somewhat vital is maybe in primals, but we can get passed that with different set ups. The rest of the time, you are usually away from the enemies standing in one spot.
    The problem is how enfeebles work, along with movement cancel. When do you ever not see a caster use the bind,nuke, sleep nuke strategy to solo? Maybe gravity nuke as well. There is alos kiting, this game doesn't allow you to do any of that if you wanted to be a solo caster.

    Personally I don't care for solo play. I just think not being able to cast and walk (not run) is stupid. Atleast making us go from running to walking instead of being in the same spot would make sense. You need to make sure you don't trip while trying to cast a spell. Walking you can't make that mistake as bad as running. This equals to immersion that alot of people want in the game.

    I can talk on my cellphone while playing monster hunter with a brokenish directional pad and still see where I am going. What the hell is so god damn difficult about walking and saying "Fira?" and concentrating?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    Yoshi gave a thorough explenation as to why it is also implemented in PvE. It works great right now, i don't see the problem. You do big damage, you have to stay stationary.
    From what I remember, his explanation involved saying that running away from a mob is as unfair because the mob cannot hit you.

    Fact is, with our current engine and it's crappy positioning code, you STILL get hit by "melee" attacks while you're yalms away from the mob. In principle, I'm not against the interruption itself, I'm only against them implementing it now, on this engine. I don't know how The Engine will handle this implementation, I do hope it will have better position sync and less latency.

    Ragnarok online took it even further, with default situation being:

    - you can't move after starting to cast
    - you can't cancel casting

    You could then decide to level Cast Cancel and Freecast which allowed you to cancel casting and move, with movement speed depending on ability level.

    FFXIV doesn't give us options/skill trees though, so maybe something like you don't cancel spells if you move, but you can only walk while casting, not run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    The problem is how enfeebles work, along with movement cancel. When do you ever not see a caster use the bind,nuke, sleep nuke strategy to solo? Maybe gravity nuke as well. There is alos kiting, this game doesn't allow you to do any of that if you wanted to be a solo caster.

    Personally I don't care for solo play. I just think not being able to cast and walk (not run) is stupid. Atleast making us go from running to walking instead of being in the same spot would make sense. You need to make sure you don't trip while trying to cast a spell. Walking you can't make that mistake as bad as running. This equals to immersion that alot of people want in the game.

    I can talk on my cellphone while playing monster hunter with a brokenish directional pad and still see where I am going. What the hell is so god damn difficult about walking and saying "Fira?" and concentrating?
    You can't compare real life to a game. It doesn't work like that. The people make this game see casting as a motionless action.
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    If I can't move while casting, then a melee shouldn't be able to hit me either.
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