Add Coffers to Alliance Raids

[VerdeLuck]

As it says, the Savage raids in this game use the coffer system to make sure that you aren't wasting a run by dropping a piece of gear that no one can wear. This seems to be well recieved and I think it should be extended to Alliance Raids. It's painful to have to run the raids for 5-6 times in a row just to get the chance to roll against other people for a drop that you can wear. Switch these drops to coffers or add some type of pity system so that you don't have to spend hours running the content just to get a drop you can wear due to sheer bad luck.

[Zebraoracle]

Honestly I'd also love to have coffers in Alliance raids. I love ARs, but man I hate having to spam them.

[DrWho2010]

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[Zebraoracle]

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I'm curious, why would you oppose this?

[Tint]

I am against coffers.

With no distinction by role everyone will roll need on them. So when the coffer for chestpiece drops you likely have to roll against 4 to 7 other people.

This would not be too bad while the raid is current and has a weekly lockout, it will be really bad when the lockout is gone and everyone rolls on everything.

Coffers will solve nothing. You still have to run the raid multiple times to get your loot. You just exchange the RNG of wrong loot against more RNG rolling against several people. And good luck getting the glamour from the Nier raids together then...

[Nav_Fae]

This would not be too bad while the raid is current and has a weekly lockout, it will be really bad when the lockout is gone and everyone rolls on everything.

This already happens. Once the lockout is gone you're forced to run as the job you want gear for to reduce competition. People roll greed on gear for jobs they don't even have unlocked.

[Tint]

This already happens. Once the lockout is gone you're forced to run as the job you want gear for to reduce competition. People roll greed on gear for jobs they don't even have unlocked.

Is that a negative thing?

[VerdeLuck]

I am against coffers.

With no distinction by role everyone will roll need on them. So when the coffer for chestpiece drops you likely have to roll against 4 to 7 other people.

This would not be too bad while the raid is current and has a weekly lockout, it will be really bad when the lockout is gone and everyone rolls on everything.

Coffers will solve nothing. You still have to run the raid multiple times to get your loot. You just exchange the RNG of wrong loot against more RNG rolling against several people. And good luck getting the glamour from the Nier raids together then...

What prompted this was me running Euphrosyne 5 times in a row without a single aiming piece dropping in the loot list. that's over 2 hours of running the same fights over and over for 0 drops. That's absurd and honestly pretty unacceptable for catch up casual gear in a game that's supposed to respect your time.
Coffers would absolutely solve this since I'd have to roll against other people yes, but there wouldn't be 6+ pieces of Maiming and Fending gear everyone hits pass on, every drop would be something I could potentially use if I were to win it.

[Gemina]

I think this might be ok so long as the coffer doesn't include an entire set of gear. The only reason I can think of that they don't do this is to keep the incentive to run the older raids higher than zero. I know that sounds counter-intuitive, but the game and content within does have a lifespan.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I honestly think this is one of FFXIV biggest Ls in terms of raiding progression. I get that theyre trying to keep the content relevant enough to warrant more people queuing but its a very annoying system.

There shouldnt be stupid rng built into getting gear, at the very least guarantee a personal gear drop for an item based on your current role at the end or drop some exchangeable token to purchase the needed piece upgrade.