Can we expect PVP to be fixed in the future?

[Oni_Akuma]

I legit found feast a lot easier in fine. It had a certain skill floor because it was execution and meta heavy, meaning players HAD to know what they should be doing exactly to perform at a minimum welfare level. That issue got also exacerbated by the fact that especially below diamond, healers made or broke 99% of games and whoever had the better one, won, period.

Once they learned what to do though, it was just extremely mechanical and repetitive. Half of the things were already settled by macros (that every player also had to have prepared, reinforcing the need for everybody to KNOW what they were supposed to be doing):
- countdown burst attack targets on melee DPS
- silencing/stun macros on ranged jobs targeting the enemy healer, facilitated by every role always being in the same party slot, and synched on the burst countdown
- tank stun synchronized with the burst countdown on the target

The remaining half were the basics like positioning and hugging walls which are also part of CC. But most of it was always following the exact same pattern, and the team executing the same script better than the other eventually applied more pressure to targets until they were out of medkits and started dying (provided both healers were of equal skill). Feast had a higher skill floor perhaps, but a way lower skill ceiling.

I guess you're sorta right all classes died in one full well synchronized combo. All you had to do was stun/ sleep the correct Target Tank/Healer/Range with damage down respectively per situation. Idk about skill ceiling felt much higher than CC, but we got Lbs to account for in CC. I had a well understanding of dueling to know that only Rdm/Gnb were overtuned and DRK were on the banned tier if you played at a perfect level and coming across one good player with extensive knowledge made the fight slightly more difficult, and the beauty lies within how well you can play individually. Otherwise Sam was the chiten carry and Pld/Mnk was below Sam. After that everyone else followed suit and had clear weaknesses. I mean its skill set worked great for Frontlines. I lived for the true burst combo that killed almost anyone under 7s flat. Now it's like the same amount of seconds, but now the team has to ramp up the damage instead of a single person carrying.

[maximesan514]

New pvp is so bad.. they will never fix it, all they do is catter to the PVE player that never plays it and leave actual people who enjoy(ed) pvp with garbage new meta/mechanics that nobody wants to play anymore. on top of this, most people are using mmominion to get they're in-game wiener enlargement titles.

this game is rotten inside out and will never be good. first step would be to ban the cheaters but they just dont care, never did, never will. Second step would be to STOP DELETING the game, pvp pre 6.1 was amazing but now its literally a LB / 3 button rotation festival, absolute no brainer. So sad to see the direction SE has taken for pvp, this new pvp is an absolute failure.

Just play another game, even if you decide to invest time in 2 year they will wipe it again.

[Towa-Musa]

IF so, when?

Are you hiring?

lol no. Absolut-Ly not.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

IF so, when?

Are you hiring?

They are hiring, but they aren't hiring people who are full of themselves.

[Osmond]

IF so, when?

Are you hiring?

No, not anytime soon.

If hiring, they need ppl who understand PvP with an engaging ranking system…..that doesn’t require ppl to engage in peak hours…

[Hopebot]

Apart from all of the problems in pvp, I feel like there needs to be a personal score that shows how well you did in a match, (kills, deaths, damage, crystal time, etc) So even if you lose, you can still go higher with this personal score.

Because getting groups that if you asked them to solve a problem where there are two holes, a triangle hole, and a square hole, gave them a square block, and told them to put it in the right hole, they would constantly try to put it in the triangle hole, is extremely unfun.

Then there's the amount of games where I've had in a row, multiple people just afk at the start, run in after everyone else is dead while even trying to put up a fight, then one leaves, and the rest is history.

Or for heavens sake, let us do premades, make sure people having a basic understanding of what they're doing.

This armor cannot come quick enough. Even with daily frontlines I just want it to be over.

[RyanCousland]

Apart from all of the problems in pvp, I feel like there needs to be a personal score that shows how well you did in a match, (kills, deaths, damage, crystal time, etc) So even if you lose, you can still go higher with this personal score.

Because getting groups that if you asked them to solve a problem where there are two holes, a triangle hole, and a square hole, gave them a square block, and told them to put it in the right hole, they would constantly try to put it in the triangle hole, is extremely unfun.

Then there's the amount of games where I've had in a row, multiple people just afk at the start, run in after everyone else is dead while even trying to put up a fight, then one leaves, and the rest is history.

Or for heavens sake, let us do premades, make sure people having a basic understanding of what they're doing.

This armor cannot come quick enough. Even with daily frontlines I just want it to be over.

this is already in the game, especially in cc, i will say however FL score view should be changed a bit the "damage to other" should be changed to points accumulated that way players will know if they made any contribution, outside of kills.

[Nubrication]

IF so, when?

Are you hiring?

They catered to the people saying that pvp had too many buttons.

They catered to people saying that some classes were useless in pvp.

They catered to people saying that certain healers were OP.

They catered to all the people crying about playing healers as high stress.

At this point, 4 expansions in: git gud and stop crying.

[Towa-Musa]

They catered to the people saying that pvp had too many buttons.

They catered to people saying that some classes were useless in pvp.

They catered to people saying that certain healers were OP.

They catered to all the people crying about playing healers as high stress.

At this point, 4 expansions in: git gud and stop crying.

they're listening to the wrong people imo

[Mistress_Irika]

they're listening to the wrong people imo

Unfortunately, those people are probably part of the huge group that is giving the devs the money to operate. I mean, you're right, but good luck convincing the masses.