4.35 vs 6.35

[Renalt]

Sure, that's probably right. But how will you feel in a few months when the game is still in the same place it is now? How much more of this will you take before you start asking questions, like "is my sub worth it?" and "am I still having as much fun as I used to?" What do you get from dismissing his argument when everything he's saying has a pretty good point? FFXIV is ten years old. Do you think 4.0 and 6.0 are even in the same league?

Aveyond might be cancelled, but there will be millions of others who ask the same questions once the content dries up.

It's all filler till 7.0. I'm not expecting New Expansion levels of content every .1 patch. Thinking that's what you'll be getting is insanity.

Besides...it being an MMO...the social aspect is what keeps me going per patch. Not the content. If it wasn't for the social aspect I would unsub till the next full 1.0 increase and be playing other games.

[Atelier-Bagur]

It's all filler till 7.0. I'm not expecting New Expansion levels of content every .1 patch. Thinking that's what you'll be getting is insanity.

Besides...it being an MMO...the social aspect is what keeps me going per patch. Not the content. If it wasn't for the social aspect I would unsub till the next full 1.0 increase and be playing other games.

You know, this is such a weirdly forgotten thing that most people dont talk about regarding justifying their subs. I enjoy hanging out and playing with my friends. I dont do it daily mind you but I interact with them often enough where it fills in the gap of the game's content drought. I dont even think about it as such and funny enough the next patch comes up on ya soon enough. So for me its worth it to stay sub for that.

And even if I didnt have them, I still like to interact with other players even if it is minor. If people feel like their sub isnt justified anymore then thats absolutely fine for them, but dont try to shove your reasonings into other people's faces about why this game sucks because it failed to retain you. Thats not entirely the game's fault, thats a personal problem. At least own up to it.

[KageTokage]

We might be getting longer patch cycles but I'm not really feeling we're getting more content or better polish to compensate.

These patches have had some serious glitches like BRD/MCH in Crystal Conflict disconnecting if they tried move while casting and snared or the ongoing NIN mudra lag that's been present since 6.3 dropped that really went/are going way too long without being addressed.

[Deveryn]

We might be getting longer patch cycles but I'm not really feeling we're getting more content or better polish to compensate.

These patches have had some serious glitches like BRD/MCH in Crystal Conflict disconnecting if they tried move while casting and snared or the ongoing NIN mudra lag that's been present since 6.3 dropped that really went/are going way too long without being addressed.

Duty Support updates are happening alongside everything. It's not content for everyone, but they're still going through and reworking / polishing all that content. Everyone should know be better equipped to handle all the late game mechanics and markers now that everything is more consistent. As for the glitches, shit happens. They get to it.

[Jeeqbit]

Remembering the bygone days when we indeed had a patch drop with a Deep Dungeon and an entire Relic Zone at once. Well, the latter came in 4.36 if we want to get technical but even so it was hardly a long wait. (Stormblood even released a relic zone in 4.25, can you imagine?)

We got a relic in 6.25 and we got Variant and Criterion dungeons, with their own unique UI that had the amount of work put into it that eureka UI did. We also got a eureka-like area called Island Sanctuary in 6.2 with the same sort of new UI that we would get in a eureka-like area.

Now, even with an extended patch cycle such things are impossible

No, they are absolutely not impossible. They just decided to do something else instead of Eureka and Bozja, such as Criterion, Island Sanctuary and a deep dungeon (the thing we didn't get in Shadowbringers). It's called diverting resources.

and what we know is coming so far just feels so uninspired. But sure let’s rerelease more Allag/Crystal Tower stuff as if the game wasn’t full to the brim with it.

And, unlike the previous Relic Questlines and associated zones, nobody is doing Criterion.

This is another issue entirely. Just because they are themes we have already seen or that aren't being done a lot, doesn't mean they didn't put in the amount of resources they put into Eureka.

We might be getting longer patch cycles but I'm not really feeling we're getting more content or better polish to compensate.

It was never about getting more content. It was about allowing them to take the breaks they require to avoid burnout. Yoshi-P has always made sure that his team takes breaks or shifted them around to try different things and after 10 years he feels those breaks need to be slightly longer to avoid burnout. Burnout and having a mountain of personal issues they didn't address at home wouldn't be good for the game, so those breaks help keep them relaxed and able to focus.

[Deveryn]

I'm still glad they didn't do another exploration zone. Those need some work before being reintroduced. It's also nice just to switch things up.

[Midareyukki]

I'm still glad they didn't do another exploration zone. Those need some work before being reintroduced. It's also nice just to switch things up.

Yeah. I want them back, but I don't just want a glorified FATE hunt. There needs to be more to do, and there are interesting things you can do with the concept. After all, it's called an Exploration Zone. Add exploration mechanics and aspects to it. Reward players for actually giving a damn.

[Jeeqbit]

Yeah. I want them back, but I don't just want a glorified FATE hunt. There needs to be more to do, and there are interesting things you can do with the concept. After all, it's called an Exploration Zone. Add exploration mechanics and aspects to it. Reward players for actually giving a damn.

The issue is that when it wasn't a glorified FATE hunt (Eureka), people complained about it not being that and that they had to wait for NMs and suffer RNG doing various types of treasure hunts, so Bozja became a FATE farm and the result was it being braindead except for CEs. SE has had to choose between those with only 2 hours to play, who can't wait around for NMs to spawn, and those with lots of time to play who don't care that they take ages to be spawned.

[Deveryn]

The issue is that when it wasn't a glorified FATE hunt (Eureka), people complained about it not being that and that they had to wait for NMs and suffer RNG doing various types of treasure hunts, so Bozja became a FATE farm and the result was it being braindead except for CEs. SE has had to choose between those with only 2 hours to play, who can't wait around for NMs to spawn, and those with lots of time to play who don't care that they take ages to be spawned.

Bozja was also the way it was because they were compensating for the lack of DD and the xp / goodies it provided.

Looking past 7.0 and the 100 cap, I think this type of zone concept could be expanded on and provide a different way to level without simply going to 110.

[Coatl]

EW has been the worst expansion by far in terms of content.