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  1. #51
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    MaxCarnage's Avatar
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    Adiah Highborn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    It’s not about how they follow advice. It’s about their reaction to anything non positive. You demonstrated part of the problem. You misrepresented the comment.

    If you melt down over criticism, you aren’t equipped to deal with it.

    Had nothing to do with not following orders
    I just roll my eyes at most of the people on the forums. They're always trying to spin it
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    Paper Wait
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    I pity the son or daughter who is taught that "a spine" or "thicker skin" is the answer to verbal abuse. "Just ignore it, it will go away" is very poor advice.

    If one truly believes in that nonsense about "thicker skin", a negative reaction to criticism should be brushed off as well. Yet, a negative reaction to what one might consider a valid point appears to wound the critic.

    While it is true that "not every criticism is a personal attack", not every reaction to criticism is unwarranted. In the same manner one advises others to "grow a spine", perhaps they should be taking that advice to heart. Except that it is poor advice to begin with.
    Thicker skin more so means you cannot control how others speak or react towards you. All you have control over is how you choose to respond to the verbal abuse. The truth is as a person you are the one that gives verbal abuse power, not the one slinging it at you.
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    Okay boomer.

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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    The ToS has become weaponized. Why risk an account on banter or, god forbid, telling the blm that flare exists. It's not that hard to figure out, lol.
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    Harun Asubra
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  5. #55
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    You just have to do it in an incredibly two faced and backhanded way while maintaining the illusion of a warm and inviting community.
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  6. #56
    Player Hurlstone's Avatar
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    Valamist Hurlstone
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    There are certainly situations when the 'thicker skin' approach can be helpful, especially if you combine that with taking on constructive and well-meaning criticism. But at the same time, its unhealthy to use that as a blanket response. If someone is being a bigot to you or actively offensive, you should have every right to call them out on it. No one should be forced to ‘grin and bare’ bullying. Plus its important to understand that not everyone can/should take such ‘humour’ as just jestful boasts. Empathy is not a weakness.
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  7. #57
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    Koyuki Himekawa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    Not everything is verbal abuse. That’s a key part of this. Criticism is valid and can be used to grow. Just because it hurts your feelings or makes you uncomfortable doesn’t equate it to abuse.

    People don’t like being made feel negative. But it’s how we handle it and what we do with it. Treat all criticism as abuse and let it consume you, then what you were criticized on will always be there. Instead learn from it. Grow from it. As per my earlier example; stop standing in the bad in duties and the team progresses easier. Or keep standing in the bad and blame the healer for your own shortcomings you aren’t mentally or emotionally equipped to deal with
    This one hundred percent. Well said. If people truly dont want to learn and grow you can’t do anything for them. People that stubborn need to seek help but probably won’t.

    Sort of related, people around me smoke cigarettes. It has long term effects and its a costly addiction. I advise them they would feel and do much better if they quit but they wont. Obviously they dont like my advice and still do it.
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    Melodiane Valerian
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    Gen Z started playing online games and ruined everything.
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  9. #59
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Aww yiisss Skiros is back!!
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  10. #60
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    Dal S'ta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    It’s not about how they follow advice. It’s about their reaction to anything non positive. You demonstrated part of the problem. You misrepresented the comment
    I stand corrected. The phrase "As per my earlier example; stop standing in the bad in duties and the team progresses easier. Or keep standing in the bad and blame the healer for your own shortcomings you aren’t mentally or emotionally equipped to deal with" is not about ignoring advice. It is the opinion of the writer for anyone who dares to respond to that criticism ... except in this case, there wasn't any response to criticism mentioned.

    Personally, I do not find it so easy to dismiss players using "you aren't mentally or emotionally equipped". Perhaps that is the way the writer copes. After all, "People don’t like being made feel negative. But it’s how we handle it and what we do with it."
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