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    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    It takes no effort to not be an asshole to people.
    Do you walk around with a sign displaying all your so called “trigger warnings”? Pull your socks up big guy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    It takes no effort to not be an asshole to people. Grow up and treat people with a basic level of respect. You don't have the right to intentionally trigger people because you think it's their responsibility to deal with your bullshit.
    You keep editing to add more bs. Where did you pull "you don't have the right to intentionally trigger people" when the person you're arguing against even said "just because you have certain sensitivities doesn't mean someone's trying to trigger you"?

    Unhinged behaviour.

    You keep talking about respect and how easy it is to not be a jerk while making wild accusations and acting out of line, yourself.
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  3. #203
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post
    You keep editing to add more bs. Where did you pull "you don't have the right to intentionally trigger people" when the person you're arguing against even said "just because you have certain sensitivities doesn't mean someone's trying to trigger you"?

    Unhinged behaviour.

    You keep talking about respect and how easy it is to not be a jerk while making wild accusations and acting out of line, yourself.
    Some of these people read what they want to read. They need to create an argument to argue their own point. Living in a make believe land of fairy tale villains.
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  4. #204
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post
    You keep editing to add more bs. Where did you pull "you don't have the right to intentionally trigger people" when the person you're arguing against even said "just because you have certain sensitivities doesn't mean someone's trying to trigger you"?

    Unhinged behaviour.

    You keep talking about respect and how easy it is to not be a jerk while making wild accusations and acting out of line, yourself.
    'Not being an asshole' is BS?

    The phrase used was "offense is taken, not given" which is used to absolve oneself of responsibility. "I can say whatever the hell I want and it's your fault if it offends you". It's victim blaming. That means intentionally offending people, however they decided to excuse it afterwards.

    If that's not what was meant, maybe try using your words more carefully so that they convey what you mean? See? How words mean things?
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 05-31-2023 at 08:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    'Not being an asshole' is BS?

    The phrase used was "offense is taken, not given" which is used to absolve oneself of responsibility. "I can say whatever the hell I want and it's your fault if it offends you". It's victim blaming. That means intentionally offending people, however they decided to excuse it afterwards.

    If that's not what was meant, maybe try using your words more carefully so that they convey what you mean? See? How words mean things?
    You're allowed to be offended all you want but the expectations that random strangers need to care about you being offended is where I have issues with people nowadays.
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  6. #206
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    You're allowed to be offended all you want but the expectations that random strangers need to care about you being offended is where I have issues with people nowadays.
    That's fine. You don't need to give any additional effort to dealing with other peoples problems. But it's easy enough to be conscious of them so that you don't cause them to begin with.
    In the current climate where people are taking exception to basic measures such as avoiding known slurs and triggers, majority exceptionalism "I've never had a problem so why should I bother to educate myself? Other people should deal with my ignorance", sometimes it needs to be said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    That's fine. You don't need to give any additional effort to dealing with other peoples problems. But it's easy enough to be conscious of them so that you don't cause them to begin with.
    In the current climate where people are taking exception to basic measures such as avoiding known slurs and triggers, majority exceptionalism "I've never had a problem so why should I bother to educate myself? Other people should deal with my ignorance", sometimes it needs to be said.
    Are you assuming everyone knows what triggers you though? People get triggered by the word moist. Doesn't mean I'll stop using it.
    The issue nowadays from my point of view is people get all up in arms about "muh feelings". You can just say what triggers you without the expectation from the other person. If the person cares/respects you they will listen.
    Let people make their own decisions, no need for this stupid follow up.
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    As a straight White unvaccinated Christian, don't worry, I'm an extremist with borderline too high testosterone. And I agree with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    That's fine. You don't need to give any additional effort to dealing with other peoples problems. But it's easy enough to be conscious of them so that you don't cause them to begin with.
    In the current climate where people are taking exception to basic measures such as avoiding known slurs and triggers, majority exceptionalism "I've never had a problem so why should I bother to educate myself? Other people should deal with my ignorance", sometimes it needs to be said.
    Or I can just not bother dealing with you because I hate people who expect other people to walk on eggshells around them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    'Not being an asshole' is BS?

    The phrase used was "offense is taken, not given" which is used to absolve oneself of responsibility. "I can say whatever the hell I want and it's your fault if it offends you". It's victim blaming. That means intentionally offending people, however they decided to excuse it afterwards.

    If that's not what was meant, maybe try using your words more carefully so that they convey what you mean? See? How words mean things?
    See how you took offense on something that wasn't meant to be offensive?

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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