Is there too much soy in this game's community

[Kolaina]

Please do tell us exactly what the TC meant and how that actually conforms to what you mean now.

From what I can see, the TC specifically mentioned insulting and mocking people, specifically in making jokes, not criticising their skill or performance.

Several people have now turned this topic towards receiving backlash from giving constructive criticism, which might be what you want to talk about, but it's not what the TC was talking about. They're two entirely different things, with different arguments. So don't conflate them with comments like: "This isn’t about not being able to be racist, homophonic or sexist like the one poster suggest. That’s a common claim meant to dismiss used by the exact community OP is referring to." when that's exactly what it is about, in an attempt to discredit the counterargument for something completely unrelated.

The premise is still the same. You can’t say anything to anyone that takes them out of their safe space. Anything that criticizes whether it’s legitimate or an obvious joke. People crack like an egg and then get out of whack about anything non positive.

As far as the OP, they’re right. You can’t even joke anymore. Bobby said it. I said it over a year ago in the forums. Offence is taken, not given.

If you’re unhappy with something; change it. If you can’t change it; then change your attitude.

The perpetually offended may be creating an issue that originally wasn’t there to begin with

[DPZ2]

The perpetually offended may be creating an issue that originally wasn’t there to begin with

Conversely, the perpetually offending may be getting their just reward for years of verbal abuse.

[Seraphor]

The premise is still the same. You can’t say anything to anyone that takes them out of their safe space. Anything that criticizes whether it’s legitimate or an obvious joke. People crack like an egg and then get out of whack about anything non positive.

As far as the OP, they’re right. You can’t even joke anymore. Bobby said it. I said it over a year ago in the forums. Offence is taken, not taken.

If you’re unhappy with something; change it. If you can’t change it; then change your attitude.

The perpetually offended may be creating an issue that originally wasn’t there to begin with

There's a world of difference between taking offence at someone trying to help you with constructive criticism, and taking offence at a blatantly racist joke.

The fact is, if people don't like what you're saying, they're allowed to disagree with you.
All of this "you can't say anything anymore" bullshit is actually a thinly veiled attempt to censor people who disagree with backwards views. It's telling 'the woke' to shut up and put up with bigotry.

Meanwhile players who get constructive criticism for their performance, and take it badly, are likely that way because they've become used to other players being aggressive and judgemental. As I said, these are actually entirely opposite issues. Players get defensive about their performance because of aggressive, highly competitive players who try to police everything.
They shouldn't get defensive about constructive criticism, but they shouldn't have to get defensive either.

[Nyxs]

There's a world of difference between taking offence at someone trying to help you with constructive criticism, and taking offence at a blatantly racist joke.

The fact is, if people don't like what you're saying, they're allowed to disagree with you.
All of this "you can't say anything anymore" bullshit is actually a thinly veiled attempt to censor people who disagree with backwards views. It's telling 'the woke' to shut up and put up with bigotry.

Meanwhile players who get constructive criticism for their performance, and take it badly, are likely that way because they've become used to other players being aggressive and judgemental. As I said, these are actually entirely opposite issues. Players get defensive about their performance because of aggressive, highly competitive players who try to police everything.
They shouldn't get defensive about constructive criticism, but they shouldn't have to get defensive either.

Nah people are snowflakes if constructive criticism upsets them that much. Also weird you say people are policing performance and you are here trying to police how people talk. You,nor anyone can control what people say so no point in trying.Perhaps try not being offended at every little thing. Shrug it off and move on. Most people in life you will have limited interactions anyways.

[Rannie]

Mmm soy sauce with Wasabi or even dyed green horse radish
... enough to make your nose and eyes water please!

[DPZ2]

"Men who produce less testosterone are more likely to be in a relationship[65] or married,[66] and men who produce more testosterone are more likely to divorce.[66]"
[Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone]

Perhaps a number of players have, as Cat Stevens wrote in his song Father and Son:

Find a girl, settle down
If you want you can marry
Look at me, I am old but I'm happy

(Please replace "girl" with your own preference here.)

Remember kids. You will get older.

[Kolaina]

Conversely, the perpetually offending may be getting their just reward for years of verbal abuse.

Or they are now the offenders. Commonly referred to as cry bullies. They have a desire to be offensive and vitriolic and use their own version of what’s righteous to excuse their own poor behaviour

[Kolaina]

There's a world of difference between taking offence at someone trying to help you with constructive criticism, and taking offence at a blatantly racist joke.
The fact is, if people don't like what you're saying, they're allowed to disagree with you.

All of this "you can't say anything anymore" bullshit is actually a thinly veiled attempt to censor people who disagree with backwards views. It's telling 'the woke' to shut up and put up with bigotry.

Meanwhile players who get constructive criticism for their performance, and take it badly, are likely that way because they've become used to other players being aggressive and judgemental. As I said, these are actually entirely opposite issues. Players get defensive about their performance because of aggressive, highly competitive players who try to police everything.
They shouldn't get defensive about constructive criticism, but they shouldn't have to get defensive either.

You keep jumping to racism and bigotry. If you’re seeing this everywhere then maybe it’s you. Keep trying to argue with me over an issue I’m not addressing,

I said “cant criticize or say anything that makes a person have a negative emotion”

Your response “racism, sexism, bigotry”

Your responses have nothing to do with what I’m referring to. You’re using buzzwords to excuse your crap attitude and to justify your negative responses. This is the same attitude and justification the cry bullies I refer to use.

You can’t make a legitimate claim or criticism without an individual such as yourself charging in like “but it’s worse!!! Ree ree ree”.

[Seraphor]

You keep jumping to racism and bigotry. If you’re seeing this everywhere then maybe it’s you. Keep trying to argue with me over an issue I’m not addressing,

I said “cant criticize or say anything that makes a person have a negative emotion”

Your response “racism, sexism, bigotry”

Your responses have nothing to do with what I’m referring to. You’re using buzzwords to excuse your crap attitude and to justify your negative responses. This is the same attitude and justification the cry bullies I refer to use.

You can’t make a legitimate claim or criticism without an individual such as yourself charging in like “but it’s worse!!! Ree ree ree”.

What is going on, is you're making an argument for 'criticising things'.
Which I don't disagree with.

But the TC very clearly was referring to making offensive jokes, which means "racism, sexism, homophobia, bigotry, etc".

I was arguing against the TC's quite obvious trolling. You've decided to use me as an example of people who argue against giving criticism.

If I'm arguing over an issue you're not addressing, maybe you should have read the TC's first post a little more closely and not used my argument against bigotry as an example in your completely different argument.

To top it off, you're now referring to people on one side of one of these arguments as 'cry bullies'. Are you referring to me? I have no idea, because you conflated the two arguments. This is how offense ends up being taken.

Ironically, you're now characterising me with things like "Reeeee", when I haven't once lost my cool.
You see, you are the one getting defensive in response to cool-headed counterarguments right now.
You are a case study in why people get offended by things online. Because text doesn't convey tone of voice, or emotion.

[Midareyukki]

You guys need a hug ♥



Don't lose control over the troll, ok?