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  1. #221
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    Gurgeh's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    Back in Heavensward and Stormblood you can insult people and mock them and they'll just insult and mock you back. Banter, friendly or unfriendly, was the norm. What happened to this game's community man!? Now you make a mild joke and they collapse and freak out and start crying. People don't even fight back anymore! What happened to FF14? Where is all the testosterone?
    If I had to guess: it's because the social vibe of the game is chasing in so many other respects for the worse, such that people are jumping to the defensive quicker not so much because of how the comment affects them, but because of a desperation to preserving XIV as they valued it previously. Also, because general wide spread negativity has drained their resilience.
    Lastly because the games centric has changed, and those that remain do so because of traits that... make them to handle things in that way.
    Wild speculation, but bits fit.
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  2. #222
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daughterofdeath View Post
    play ff and believe in something like this is kinda funny the one game series that was honestly designed for girls and gay guys ;P, your a lying if you say your 100% straight guy playing ff lol
    FF14 started out more as an MMO than as a FF.
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  3. #223
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    If I had to guess: it's because the social vibe of the game is chasing in so many other respects for the worse, such that people are jumping to the defensive quicker not so much because of how the comment affects them, but because of a desperation to preserving XIV as they valued it previously. Also, because general wide spread negativity has drained their resilience.
    Lastly because the games centric has changed, and those that remain do so because of traits that... make them to handle things in that way.
    Wild speculation, but bits fit.
    Yeah no I mean you pretty much covered it. That and people live by the mantra 'respect is earned' which basically translates to respect my authority or I won't treat you like a person. So no anyone with that mentality can stay on their muddy side of the fence and not even look at my side of the grass lol. Who uses soy unironically anyways?
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  4. #224
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    I'm loving the "necroposting on old whining threads because there somehow aren't enough new whining threads" forum arc we're currently in.

    (I'm being serious, it's hilarious)
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  5. #225
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    If I had to guess: it's because the social vibe of the game is chasing in so many other respects for the worse, such that people are jumping to the defensive quicker not so much because of how the comment affects them, but because of a desperation to preserving XIV as they valued it previously. Also, because general wide spread negativity has drained their resilience.
    Lastly because the games centric has changed, and those that remain do so because of traits that... make them to handle things in that way.
    Wild speculation, but bits fit.
    Too many femboys in FF14!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagacious View Post
    Are you serious? shaming in a Japanese mmo? Do you realize in their culture if shammed they will (hara-kiri)(seppuku) themselves?

  6. #226
    Player Gunz_Zbestest's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fagotura View Post
    Too many femboys in FF14!!
    Too many Internet tough guys!
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  7. #227
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    Yes, it honestly creeps me out how soft a lot of this community is when it comes to friendly, competitive banter. People unironically claiming emotional harm and distress over getting emoted on in PvP. I feel like I'm playing a game surrounded by people with unmanaged personality disorders or something.

    There's a weird trigger-happy culture when it comes to reporting too. It's like, "Oh, this person did something I personally don't like. Let's try to get them banned!"
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    Last edited by JohnLakeside; 03-11-2025 at 06:29 PM.

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    Player Gunz_Zbestest's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnLakeside View Post
    Yes, it honestly creeps me out how soft a lot of this community is when it comes to friendly, competitive banter. People unironically claiming emotional harm and distress over getting emoted on in PvP. I feel like I'm playing a game surrounded by people with unmanaged personality disorders or something.

    There's a weird trigger-happy culture when it comes to reporting too. It's like, "Oh, this person did something I personally don't like. Let's try to get them banned!"
    I've never reported a person for something so petty. I have however made a post asking people's opinion on what is a rule violation to see their responses.
    What's more creepy is someone running the forums on alt accounts asking internet tough guy questions that any normal person can see through as pure insecurity.
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  9. #229
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnLakeside View Post
    Yes, it honestly creeps me out how soft a lot of this community is when it comes to friendly, competitive banter. People unironically claiming emotional harm and distress over getting emoted on in PvP. I feel like I'm playing a game surrounded by people with unmanaged personality disorders or something.

    There's a weird trigger-happy culture when it comes to reporting too. It's like, "Oh, this person did something I personally don't like. Let's try to get them banned!"
    I'd love to have a couple of examples of what constitutes "friendly, competitive banter." And in what situations it might be used.
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  10. #230
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    Mimilla Milla
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    As someone who used to enjoy a bit of banter now and then, I grew up, and realised that it wasn't what I wanted.

    Because that's what people do. They change, and they grow, and the community changed and grew with them.

    I don't expect bleeding-edge performance from the Tank, because I know they're probably trying their best, so why be pointlessly cruel to them? Optimisation for the sake of optimisation creates an unhealthy dynamic, so why not take it slow now and then?
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