Is there too much soy in this game's community

[Melorie]

I gotta say that yes, I do think that the community is very sensitive... in a particular way I often don't see in online games. And I'm not even talking about jokes.

This week, we warned a newbie tank that he had to turn on his tank stance. When he couldn't find his lvl 10 skill at first, he told us that he would leave the dungeon in order to not cause us trouble. We had to spam quickly and convince him that there was no need for that, he just had to push a button.

I have seen people truly, deeply, extremely hurt because you wouldn't reciprocate their emote, go to their online wedding, buy their whole family-roleplay-thingy going on (why is that so common? lmao). It's SO weird.

There was a FC in which a group of people started to dislike another group of people because they did a lot of conversation on the FC chat? Uh?? Or another dude that was very, very sad, to the point of leaving the FC, because some people wouldn't get into his butler-rp-talk. And someone changed his "butler" status back when they were changing the FC name.

The other point of the stick is true as well: you have people that really feel like someone spamming emotes or a macro are very annoying, to the point that it's worth making a commentary over it. Something has to be literally impossible to deal with in order for me to type on the chat tbh. 99% of the time I won't ever see that person again. It's weird all around.

I believe that the reasons for that are first the second-lifesque aspect of the game actually brings people that treat their characters as something more than a fluffy game and thus, weird attitude and... well, ffxiv is a mmo, like lotro, full of people that usually don't play other games, or other mmos at all, which definetly plays a role in how they deal with somewhat-normal-things-from-online-games.

That being said, this has very little do to with the "people are so sensitive!! it's the WOKE generation" discourse that we often see from conservatives that are sad that they can't make their bad jokes any longer without someone telling them to shut up.

[Corrupted]

I still haven't experience this sort of interaction, in six years of playing.

What I find usually happens is a suggestion/criticism is made, like "keep the bosses apart" or "don't pull them there" or "what are these whack waymarkers!?" and it's either left there or others end up agreeing.

It makes me wonder... is this a NA thing? Because I'm EU.

I used to run into those people a lot way back, still see the rare occurrence here and there.
What I found is, once you stop giving a damn you run into them less and less which ironically feeds into itself (ignoring it can save you headaches but also means some stupidity goes unchecked)

[Nyxs]

I mean, sure you may not have been offended but I asked someone to not spam their chat macro once and they went on a tirade about how funny the macros are, that people absolutely love their macros and compliment them all the time on them, and that I was just stupid for not understanding humour. And that's more the norm than not from the interactions I see. And not just to me, but to others, as well. So it's not a "common denominator" thing, as some people like to excuse. I've been kicked from a duty for legitimately just saying "can you please dodge the aoes" since I was struggling to heal. I had a guy go nuts on me saying I was going to end up in GM jail or something for saying "you don't have to LB nero" before they reworked Prae. Heck, even on the forums I had someone get so salty and offended that I had told them that someone didn't misspell something but rather it was a different language. Because apparently I had to denounce bullying but I didn't so I was a supporter of bullying in his eyes?

People are nuts. You see it in the real world all the time too, and the game is just a reflection of that.

I can second this as one of the big things people get offended over. If you tell someone you dont like them spamming chat with their text macros that others have complimented them on they get so angry. Perhaps they need to understand there is other people that dont think its funny nor do they like seeing people’s text macro every 30sec-2mins but alas they think they are in the right.

[yaba_gabagool]

Back in Heavensward and Stormblood you can insult people and mock them and they'll just insult and mock you back. Banter, friendly or unfriendly, was the norm. What happened to this game's community man!? Now you make a mild joke and they collapse and freak out and start crying. People don't even fight back anymore! What happened to FF14? Where is all the testosterone?

When you restrict speech and ideas, you restrict freedoms of the individual. A lot of extremeists are driving the paradigm right now and social cooling has repressed a lot of the freedoms we have been able to freely express.

This is where satire saves the day.

[Effendi]

Are we sure it's people getting more easily offended ? Could it that people were always offended, just in the past they hid it, and now they have no more patience for your nonsense, and don't shy away from letting you know.

[Canadane]

Devs ironed out their harassment policy a couple of times now between then and now.
Might have something to do with it.

[Silver-Strider]

No one can take a joke anymore and criticism might as well be death threats the way this community behaves at times.
Hell, I'd believe half of them were still attached to their umbilical cord given how sensitive they are.

[Escalon]

I mean, yes and no.

The sensivity in this game is far higher from encounters ive had, just a bit ago i had a PLD in the new 90 dungeon who barelly passed the iLvL check, he did wall to wall puls, without using any CD's and using Clemency instead, dude was literally about as steadfast as a wet tissue paper, now, I consider myself a decent healer, especially on SCH, I ran out of mana on one pul, that with mana regen on, when the tank died, he was asking me why i did not heal him, I did, i really did, a threw everything my SCH had and some more, had to dig out even mana potions that been collecting dust in my inventory. When I told him that he should use Mitigation and Defence CD's, he told me off with : I use them when i need them. and then proceeded to tell me that im being mean to him when im telling him to use them. After the last fight where he ofc Died from collecting debuffs like it would be a new trading card game and I had to solo the boss as a healer since the DPS were newish and were dead, he types : SEE IT WAS EASY AND YOU ARE FLAMING ME....

I wanted to quit that bad, soooo really bad, not just the dungeon, the whole game.

Sad part is, im meeting more and more people like this. I dont care if you mess up a mechanic, i dont care your ratation is garbage, i dont care I have to heal more than its needed, what i want at lvl 90 is you having enough competence to fucking know the basics of your class and how to use it to a degree.

If that is considered flaming, well, fuck me then.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

No one can take a joke anymore and criticism might as well be death threats the way this community behaves at times.
Hell, I'd believe half of them were still attached to their umbilical cord given how sensitive they are.

Is said Criticism: Constructive?
Because I notice alot of people leave out the Constructive part: Where your suppose to be helpful and offer Solutions for improvement / help one see their Errors.
To often people think just slamming and insulting someone is Criticism that helps anyone improve or anything get better...when it just creates backlash, and pushback and senseless fighting...or people just leave: making it worse.

[Dzonathan]

All I'm going to say is that I just dont see the term "noob" thrown anymore.
It almost like the word never existed unless I recall it.