Is Square losing Money due to 3rd party tool usage?

[HikariKurosawa]

100% they are losing tons of money. People mod in cosmetics instead of buying them, people mod fantasia instead of buying them, people cheat encounters instead of grinding them.

They lose subscribers that found out how bad the cheating is in this game after the omega world first, and they're losing subscribers day by day as they learn that the game has no tamper-proofing. What is going to prevent you from using a third party addon against other players maliciously if square enix isn't doing anything to detect or prevent them? Nothing.

I would say that until square does something about this problem, simply logging into eorzea is a security risk.

On top of all that, it's really just inappropriate to have nude mods. If you want to do that, do it outside of video games, or play an actual adult video game. Bringing that energy into an mmo is insane and you should be arrested for it.

[Poporito_Popoto]

100% they are losing tons of money. People mod in cosmetics instead of buying them, people mod fantasia instead of buying them, people cheat encounters instead of grinding them.

They lose subscribers that found out how bad the cheating is in this game after the omega world first, and they're losing subscribers day by day as they learn that the game has no tamper-proofing. What is going to prevent you from using a third party addon against other players maliciously if square enix isn't doing anything to detect or prevent them? Nothing.

*citation needed

[HikariKurosawa]

*citation needed

Why? What's needed? I cancelled my sub because this game is sketchy and full of self-righteous cheaters. You're getting hacked by your own cosmetic mods at this point. The turd hit the fan. You're in it.

[Poporito_Popoto]

Why? What's needed? I cancelled my sub because this game is sketchy and full of self-righteous cheaters. You're getting hacked by your own cosmetic mods at this point. The turd hit the fan. You're in it.

Don't use mods. Now, back to that citation...

[HikariKurosawa]

Don't use mods. Now, back to that citation...

Okay, so now what about all the other players using whatever unsupported unlicensed unofficial mods that are unchecked by square enix? How is me not using mods going to prevent them from using malicious mods to steal my personal information? You think you want the wild west, but you really don't.

Fact is, the game is unsafe to anyone who cares about following the ToS. It's an open sandbox for modders and rulebreakers. If you don't fit in with that definition, it's best to avoid this game like the plague.

[Thaciscokidd]

How is me not using mods going to prevent them from using malicious mods to steal my personal information? You think you want the wild west, but you really don't.

Easy its all client side. Now if SE got hacked through a mod/plug-in you have every right to be worried. But since all parsers and graphical mods are all client side(local) as long as you don't download the mods or log into your account on an infected computer you're right as rain.

[HikariKurosawa]

Easy its all client side. Now if SE got hacked through a mod/plug-in you have every right to be worried. But since all parsers and graphical mods are all client side(local) as long as you don't download the mods or log into your account on an infected computer you're right as rain.

Sounds convenient but there's nothing to prevent a client-side mod from displaying information that is hidden on the client otherwise. If the company can't even prevent this stuff despite it being against the ToS, why should I trust their security countermeasures at all? The game has a huge problem and it seems like square enix just threw their hands up in the air. Don't ask don't tell, don't play.

@Poporito I sound "paranoid" because I don't feel comfortable playing a video game that has no security measures and an extremely active toxic mod community. Interesting. There are better things to do with my life than risk security on a video game. You people mod fantasia instead of buying it, you mod cosmetics instead of buying them. You have interest in these things, but no interest in paying for them. This is tons of lost money. If not for mods, you would have to pay for your interests, like everyone else who doesn't break the rules.

I think that they should delete anyone's account who has used fantasia mods. You stole from square enix.

[ForteNightshade]

Lol, cmon you can't be serious. This can't be what you think it is what people have a problem with players using 3rd party tools for. Surely it's not the one that does rotation for you, the infamous zoom out one, the one that does rotation for you, Tele hacks, the one that tells you where to stand, botting(not even talking rmt here), cheating in cactpot, or anything else. No... ninja madras. Yup that's it.

Nice strawman you made there.

The vast majority of PC users aren't using any of those programs nor are they the focal point of the thread. In fact, the overwhelmingly popular addons are cosmetic based or QoL like the aforementioned ping programs. Most of the people complaining about third party tools or screaming "won't someone please think of the children console players!" are lumping in nonsense like ACT and dress mods that quite literally have zero impact on any form of gameplay.

Hence my response that consoles users upset with the QoL benefits PC users have (not the cheats) should be demanding their inclusion into the game itself and not crying foul at PC users.

Why? What's needed? I cancelled my sub because this game is sketchy and full of self-righteous cheaters. You're getting hacked by your own cosmetic mods at this point. The turd hit the fan. You're in it.

Congratulations. You're a drop in the bucket compared to the tens of thousands who would quit overnight if mods and ACT were banned. And that's a very low estimation considering the sheer number of unique downloads many of these programs have nowadays.

I also find it hilarious you think people using nude mods should be arrested. It's one thing to not like them but arrested? Good lord. Even Karens would be telling you to calm down my dude.