Omega Ultimate bugged

[SeiyaSoiya]

But we are regulated by the tos and not by moral, like a said in another thread, if all the mods available are made part of the official game no one has nothing to complain about, until that time any mod used is breaking the TOS, and as such is punishable by account termination.
I don't want to discuss if's or Grey's, etc, are they a option ylthats in the main game, awesome if not, ban.

yes we are regulated
but that doesn't mean we are not allowed to judge developers on a moral level, especially when we are beaten on the head about how "they cleared without the use of third party tools"
as if the prog of developers is equivalent to what players have to do to prog, i.e. restarting all the way to the beginning each wipe

yes it's illegal
yes it's against the rules
but that's not what I'm discussing here

[VerdeLuck]

yes we are regulated
but that doesn't mean we are not allowed to judge developers on a moral level, especially when we are beaten on the head about how "they cleared without the use of third party tools"
as if the prog of developers is equivalent to what players have to do to prog, i.e. restarting all the way to the beginning each wipe

yes it's illegal
yes it's against the rules
but that's not what I'm discussing here

The testers are not "progging" the fight. They're pulling open up different phases to make sure that buffs are applied correctly in situations even when players disconnect, and that nothing despawns or falls out of the map in fringe cases. You seem to have a fundemental misunderstanding of what testers do. They aren't there to prog the fight blind and then clear multiple times, they're there to make sure the DPS check is possible to hit and that mechanics don't glitch out leaving players unable to complete it.

Every bit of content in this game is designed, balanced, and tested based on the assumption that players doing this will not be using tools. Full stop. That doesn't mean testers and devs don't use debugging tools while testing to make sure everything reacts the way it's supposed to.

[SeiyaSoiya]

The testers are not "progging" the fight. They're pulling open up different phases to make sure that buffs are applied correctly in situations even when players disconnect, and that nothing despawns or falls out of the map in fringe cases. You seem to have a fundemental misunderstanding of what testers do. They aren't there to prog the fight blind and then clear multiple times, they're there to make sure the DPS check is possible to hit and that mechanics don't glitch out leaving players unable to complete it.

Every bit of content in this game is designed, balanced, and tested based on the assumption that players doing this will not be using tools. Full stop. That doesn't mean testers and devs don't use debugging tools while testing to make sure everything reacts the way it's supposed to.

ah yes because checkpointing clearly allowed them to test the fight properly without leaving out the possibility of the main tank having a lingering magic vuln debuff that would get him instantly killed upon the boss autoattacking

maybe if they didn't cheat they could have caught this problem before release

[Striker44]

ah yes because checkpointing clearly allowed them to test the fight properly without leaving out the possibility of the main tank having a lingering magic vuln debuff that would get him instantly killed upon the boss autoattacking

maybe if they didn't cheat they could have caught this problem before release

You seem to believe that it is only possible to test something one way, that somehow if tools were used at some point to examine a specific part of the fight, it magically becomes physically impossible to also test the fight at other times without using said tools. This view conflicts with reality.

[Atelier-Bagur]

ah yes because checkpointing clearly allowed them to test the fight properly without leaving out the possibility of the main tank having a lingering magic vuln debuff that would get him instantly killed upon the boss autoattacking

maybe if they didn't cheat they could have caught this problem before release

This is a whole LOT of assumptions you're throwing out here as someone who lacks the insider information on what actually goes on with the testing group. I'll give you that its a plausibility but it would be idiotic to even assume they havent thought of just that as someone whom designed the encounter.

[Stasya]

The testers are not "progging" the fight. They're pulling open up different phases to make sure that buffs are applied correctly in situations even when players disconnect, and that nothing despawns or falls out of the map in fringe cases. You seem to have a fundemental misunderstanding of what testers do. They aren't there to prog the fight blind and then clear multiple times, they're there to make sure the DPS check is possible to hit and that mechanics don't glitch out leaving players unable to complete it.

If only there were testers that didnt use god mod only, bugs like p3 auto attack, p5 vuln auto, buff cap limit wouldn't get into release (also might add p4 dps check in heavily 2 min meta)

[solimiano]

yes we are regulated
but that doesn't mean we are not allowed to judge developers on a moral level, especially when we are beaten on the head about how "they cleared without the use of third party tools"
as if the prog of developers is equivalent to what players have to do to prog, i.e. restarting all the way to the beginning each wipe

yes it's illegal
yes it's against the rules
but that's not what I'm discussing here

Ok, so you want to discuss the setup they used, unless they state it somewhere we will never know.
I also tend to put a lot more effort in job than my hobbies, I get paid for my work, my hobbies are for me to relax and have fun, so whoever is clearing the fights might be better and putting more effort than us.
It might be they actually never encountered the bugs in a meaningful way that warrants a maintenance, but like always if enough people can prove the bug and complain in the technical forums/ bug section they might go for emergency maintenance and fix it.