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    Player Avatar von Velvet_Lunarfang
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    Morgan Blackhart
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    Maduin
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    Schnitter Lv 90

    Omega Ultimate bugged

    Been seeing some bugs from getting insta killed from a auto attack. Did the devs really test this at all?
    (3)

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    Player Avatar von Pratini
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Henry Seger
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    Marilith
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    Paladin Lv 100
    (0)

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    Player Avatar von Ivtrix
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Goblin
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    Rotmagier Lv 90
    Still an issue in p5 where the tank can get meleed 1 second before vuln falls off
    (6)

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    Avatar von Saraide
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dunkelritter Lv 100
    As far as I've heard they've only fixed one of those 2 instances of that bug happening. SE should fix this asap.
    (2)

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    Player Avatar von SeiyaSoiya
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    Hariette Reina-cuento
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    Marilith
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    it seems to me like they tested the fight phase by phase instead of all of it from start to finish
    which begs the question: do they really really really really really not use cheats or debug tools when testing the fight?
    because if they do they have no claim to consider themselves superior to players who cheat
    (2)

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    Avatar von solimiano
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    Solimiano Fair
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    Phantom
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    Beschwörer Lv 100
    Zitat Zitat von SeiyaSoiya Beitrag anzeigen
    it seems to me like they tested the fight phase by phase instead of all of it from start to finish
    which begs the question: do they really really really really really not use cheats or debug tools when testing the fight?
    because if they do they have no claim to consider themselves superior to players who cheat
    They are the Devs, they can be whatever they want, cheating is breaking the TOS and should get everyone that does it banned
    (7)

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    Player Avatar von SeiyaSoiya
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    Hariette Reina-cuento
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    Marilith
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Zitat Zitat von solimiano Beitrag anzeigen
    They are the Devs, they can be whatever they want, cheating is breaking the TOS and should get everyone that does it banned
    on a legal and ToS sense yes, if you cheat as a consumer you broke the rules
    but on a moral level I just don't wanna hear about how "the devs cleared without third party tools" when they used cheats even more egregious than what players have access to
    (1)

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    Avatar von VerdeLuck
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Halicarnassus
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    Weißmagier Lv 100
    Zitat Zitat von SeiyaSoiya Beitrag anzeigen
    it seems to me like they tested the fight phase by phase instead of all of it from start to finish
    which begs the question: do they really really really really really not use cheats or debug tools when testing the fight?
    because if they do they have no claim to consider themselves superior to players who cheat
    Of course the developers and qa testers use debugging points and tools to measure things when they test, that's the point. That's their job. If they had to actually prog everything and consistently hit the DPS check every time to test some potential interaction on P6 then it would take 3x as long to actually find and fix problems. Why would they not use tools like that to test it?
    (9)
    Geändert von VerdeLuck (05.02.23 um 06:42 Uhr)

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    Avatar von solimiano
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    Solimiano Fair
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    Phantom
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    Beschwörer Lv 100
    But we are regulated by the tos and not by moral, like a said in another thread, if all the mods available are made part of the official game no one has nothing to complain about, until that time any mod used is breaking the TOS, and as such is punishable by account termination.
    I don't want to discuss if's or Grey's, etc, are they a option ylthats in the main game, awesome if not, ban.
    (0)

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    Player Avatar von SeiyaSoiya
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    Hariette Reina-cuento
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Zitat Zitat von solimiano Beitrag anzeigen
    But we are regulated by the tos and not by moral, like a said in another thread, if all the mods available are made part of the official game no one has nothing to complain about, until that time any mod used is breaking the TOS, and as such is punishable by account termination.
    I don't want to discuss if's or Grey's, etc, are they a option ylthats in the main game, awesome if not, ban.
    yes we are regulated
    but that doesn't mean we are not allowed to judge developers on a moral level, especially when we are beaten on the head about how "they cleared without the use of third party tools"
    as if the prog of developers is equivalent to what players have to do to prog, i.e. restarting all the way to the beginning each wipe

    yes it's illegal
    yes it's against the rules
    but that's not what I'm discussing here
    (1)

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