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    What, you don't love a grid that changes based on camera position?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sindele View Post
    What, you don't love a grid that changes based on camera position?
    No, not one bit. (ಠ3ಠ)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elevin View Post
    in before someone says Yoshida says it's okay... the ToS specifically states that you cannot take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay, It's still strictly breaking ToS.
    You seriously in before'd your own thread?
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    Mai Sakurajimaa
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaalHenrik View Post
    You seriously in before'd your own thread?
    yes, xD someone is bound to say it's fine that Yoshi P Okay'd the abuse of bugs despite it being against ToS what with all the drama that's going on revolving ToS. PLus the fact that everyone knows the open secret about decorating lol and the devs fail to do anything productive. But here, have a Hay bed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elevin View Post
    in before someone says Yoshida says it's okay... the ToS specifically states that you cannot take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay, It's still strictly breaking ToS.
    Yes, and we all know two things that invalidate what you said here:

    1) Yoshi-P has already proven he isn't 'strict' in the strictly speaking category (Don't use mods, hush hush *wink* *wink*, we won't do much as long as you don't advertise it, huehuehue).

    2) You can glitch using what is solely in game and not needing plugins to do so, such as what I do. If they want to fix their bugs so we can't use Stage Panels, Wooden Lofts and shelves to get things in places we want, then they should perhaps prioritize their bug list to include such game-breaking violations. *rolls eyes*
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    Minaa Mihgo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    Yes, and we all know two things that invalidate what you said here:

    1) Yoshi-P has already proven he isn't 'strict' in the strictly speaking category (Don't use mods, hush hush *wink* *wink*, we won't do much as long as you don't advertise it, huehuehue).

    2) You can glitch using what is solely in game and not needing plugins to do so, such as what I do. If they want to fix their bugs so we can't use Stage Panels, Wooden Lofts and shelves to get things in places we want, then they should perhaps prioritize their bug list to include such game-breaking violations. *rolls eyes*
    Gotta agree with you, the devs are more concerned about bugs for raids and such over something like housing.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elevin View Post
    yes, xD someone is bound to say it's fine that Yoshi P Okay'd the abuse of bugs despite it being against ToS what with all the drama that's going on revolving ToS. PLus the fact that everyone knows the open secret about decorating lol and the devs fail to do anything productive. But here, have a Hay bed
    What has SE confirmed to be a bug and therefore are techniques that we shouldn't use?

    The only one I'm aware of is the out of bounds furnishing placement (as in completely outside of the normal interior boundaries), which we were asked not to do because it messes with the housing server in some way.

    They've said nothing about items floating in air, or being placed directly out of storage so the item can be placed in a stairwell or flush against a wall.

    It's up to SE to decide what they do not intend for players to do and therefore against ToS. Since they have been silent on most of the "glitches" despite their widespread publicized use, they may well intend for us to be using them since it takes some of the pressure off the development team to give us better tools to do the same thing as other MMOs with housing have done. Certainly they're vocal enough on other issues they consider TOS violations.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 02-03-2023 at 02:35 AM.

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    Depends on what is exploiting and what is just living with the realities of the game.

    Exploiting a bug in mind would be using it for duping items or glitching fights/mechanics for a reward.

    Making a house look nice does not effect game balance or rewards received by the game.

    Also any bug that has been left in as long as the housing ones? It is the devs fault for not fixing it. Don't blame the players for devs putting out shoddy product.
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    Khloe Entialpoh
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    I use in-game glitches without 3rd party tools when it comes to housing
    I was able to relocate my house & had 400 items in my storage left from the move (what was in storage was included, which it was already maxed at 200, so plus the other 200 which were already placed) - I have a small & it was nice to not have to make room for once.

    I will scream at the top of my lungs about how horrible the placement system is with the housing.
    So people who do use a plug-in to improve the housing placement features, I commend them.
    It's not hurting anyone. It's not taking away anyone's fun & you can't get rewards for it- it literally just saves time & a huge headache. If anything, it helps creativity.
    ( I know people who use it & have watched them stream while doing it. )
    For folks who do use an xyz plug-in; I advise you hide it as best you can because there are karens out there.

    People have asked for years for an improvement to the house decorating & give us an xyz system. It has been basically radio silence from the xiv team.
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    Last edited by HeyMcFly; 02-03-2023 at 06:40 AM.

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    Ironically the best houses will be excluded from this one. Because no one wants to be banned for the vilest crime of having a beautiful handcrafted world-within-a-house sensation. And self-incriminating themselves by having it featured in a big event like this...
    Would prefer if we indeed could have a manner of putting furniture anywhere, without it taking 8 hours to glitch it in...or using something naughty to do it in 5 seconds.

    If you browse the internet for the wildest creations, they are stunning masterpieces that one cannot even fathom being possible to do. Imagination has no limits. It could be a whole mountain range with a small village, beautiful scenery, a forest...Built entirely from combinations of furniture and clever positioning. Then add light effects, items to create entirely custom, possibly flickering shadows of interesting shapes, a starlit sky...Limits are meant to be broken.

    There are many crimes in the world of FFXIV.

    Putting a decorative item in a freely chosen spot within the house boundaries should not be one of them.
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